Jamie Andrews is the principal of a small team of biologists who have been meticulously dismantling the field of virology by conducting control experiments to the highest possible standards, with complete and full transparency, and open sourcing the entire thing. In this conversation with Jamie we discuss:

• His education as a geologist and how that informed his present perspective on science
• How he became aware of the No Virus position
• The work of Stefan Lanka and why it matters
• The findings to date of his team's Control Studies
• How the findings expose the pseudoscientific underpinnings of virology
• The next steps for the project – and how YOU can get involved

...and more

To learn more about Jamie and his work follow him on Substack and Twitter or go donate to the project.

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Music by Chris Merenda