Happy New Year, folks! We’re kicking 2025 off with the very funny Jay Jurden! Jay and Caleb talk everything from church being cool again, being from red states, Matchbox Twenty, the Buckle challenge, a magical encounter at a BBQ restaurant in KC, and much more!

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