We're joined bright and early this Autumnal morning all the way from Japan by world cup winning Springbok Jesse Kriel to help us digest the massive breaking news that both Wayne Pivac and Eddie Jones have been fired merely 9 months before the World Cup in France. We debate whether both of these decisions were the right ones, what the fall outs going to be and also whether Gatland and Borthwick are the right men to succeed in the roles. On top of this we also get an incredible insight into life as a Springbok behind the scenes from Jesse Kriel, from how they celebrated their incredible pumping of England at HQ, to what Rassie Erasmus is really like, all the way back to crazy initiations at school and secret extra gym sessions which led to his success.

(THIS PODCAST WAS RECORDED IN 2 PARTS - WE FOUND OUT HALF WAY THROUGH AT AROUND 12.30 MINS IN EDDIE HAD BEEN FIRED AND SO REACT TO HIS DISMISSAL FROM THEN ONWARDS ALONGSIDE JESSE KRIEL)

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