Richard McGirr interviews Matt Drouin about what actually makes paid ads work for high-ticket offers—and why most people fail when they try to bolt ads onto capital raising without the right infrastructure. Matt breaks down the core “go/no-go” checklist (starting with a crystal-clear offer), choosing the right channel for your ICP (Meta for older, Facebook-group-heavy investors), and why your CRM, follow-up, and speed-to-lead matter as much as the ads themselves. They dig into lead-quality filtering (conditional logic on lead forms), training your pixel with the right conversion signals, and how to think about creative/VSLs, proof, and ad fatigue. Matt’s biggest takeaway: stop DIY-ing it blindly—hire experienced help, because paid is a different beast than organic.

Matt Drouin
Current role: Partner, OakGrove Companies; Go Bigger Sooner
Based in: Rochester, New York
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