The Best Ever CRE Show

Ash Patel and Amanda Cruise talk to M.C. Laubscher about how Whole life insurance gets dragged online for a reason, but most people are criticizing the wrong policy. They break down the real difference between retail life insurance and properly structured infinite banking, and show how wealthy families use the strategy as a savings engine, lending source, and multigenerational wealth system.

M.C. Laubscher

Founder of Producers Wealth

Based in:

Newtown Grant, Pennsylvania

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mclaubscher

https://producerswealth.com/

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Richard and Adam unpack the counterintuitive reason so many entrepreneurs fail: they’re great at addition and terrible at subtraction. Most founders and fund managers treat a book like a trophy. Adam Witty argues it should work like a weapon. If you’re a GP, coach, consultant, or operator who needs credibility to raise capital, win trust, and open bigger doors, this conversation shows why the right book can become your strongest stealth sales tool.

Adam Witty

CEO of Advantage | The Authority Company

Based in:

Charleston, South Carolina

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamwitty

https://advantagemedia.com/

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Matt, Cody, and John talk about advice on how to avoid big-city multifamily that is missing the real opportunity. In Chicago, Cody Ray and John Warren have built a model around small apartment buildings, vertical integration, and local control that lets them compete where others see only red tape.

What starts as a broker-client relationship turns into a partnership, a business plan scribbled on the back of a napkin, and a platform built to buy, rehab, manage, and stabilize scattered-site buildings across Chicagoland. Cody and John break down how they found each other, why John added a GC license, and how Forte Properties turned recurring contractors into a more controlled, scalable operation.

John Warren

Operations Manager and Managing Director of Forte Properties

Based in:

Riverside, Illinois

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-warren

www.fortepropertieschicago.com

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Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel press Seth on the exact playbook behind his land business, from sending direct mail to apathetic owners to making deep discounted offers on properties most investors overlook. Seth breaks down why land can be easier than houses, how he decides what to buy, and why he prefers paying cash so he has flexibility instead of debt, partners, and deadlines.

Seth WIlliams

Founder of REtipster.com

Based in:

Grand Rapids, Michigan

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-williams-2ba52067

https://retipster.com/

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Richard McGirr talks to Chris Tourtellotte. From a music festival side hustle to a $455 million Chicago portfolio, Chris shows how going bigger from day one can create opportunities most operators never reach.

If you think real estate growth has to happen one small deal at a time, this conversation will change your playbook. Chris breaks down how he went from underwriting at PGM to co-founding SnowGlobe Music Festival, raising capital for a passion project that MTV eventually acquired, and then translating that same instinct for scale into apartment development, build-to-rent, self-storage, and institutional acquisitions at LaTerra.

Chris Tourtellotte

Managing Director of LaTerra Development, LLC.

Based in:

Los Angeles, California

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-tourtellotte-3257224

https://laterradev.com/

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Matt Faircloth and Chris Larsen break down the mindset and strategy behind Next Level Income and Chris's new free book, How to Be Financially Free by 40, a concise roadmap for turning earned income into lasting financial independence.

You'll discover the three-part framework behind Chris's philosophy: make enough money, keep as much of it as possible, then grow it through investments that create passive income. He shares how that thinking shaped his own path from engineering student to real estate investor, why he launched the show in 2019, and how the podcast evolved from education tool to networking engine during COVID.

Chris Larsen

Founder of Next-Level Income

Based in:

Asheville, North Carolina

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nextlevelincome

https://nextlevelincome.com/

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Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel  get into the kind of opportunistic investing most people never hear about, including Ash’s off-the-cuff bar acquisition hunt in Pittsburgh, how he used AI to identify the hottest district, and what he learned by bar hopping, talking to locals, and evaluating competition in real time. It is a sharp look at how operators actually source and underwrite deals when the opportunity is hiding in plain sight.

Commercial lease mistakes can cost you more than rent. They can trap you in months of legal headaches, bad tenants, and avoidable losses. Ash Patel breaks down the lease clauses, eviction tactics, and investor red flags every real estate operator should know before signing the next deal.

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Richard MacGirr talks to Anna-Marie Allander Lieb as she shares how Kinect Real Estate Partners is building a retail channel from the ground up for American Capital Group, a 40-year multifamily operator that historically raised from institutions like Blackstone, Canyon Partners, PGIM, and PIMCO. With new products like an Opportunity Zone fund and a robust development pipeline, the team is betting that today’s investors want something the big crowdfunding platforms could not truly deliver: transparency, alignment, and a real sponsor relationship.

Anna-Marie Allander Lieb

Director of Investor Relations & Fundraising at Kinect Real Estate Partners

Based in:

Spokane, Washington

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/annamarieallander

https://kinectrep.com/

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Matt Faircloth talks to Carson Jones, a broker, investor, and syndicator at Passive Investments. He also works across business sales, multifamily, industrial, oil and gas, and data center opportunities, bringing a wide-angle view to today’s shifting markets.

AI is creating a land rush inside commercial real estate, and most investors are looking in the wrong place. Carson Jones breaks down how ordinary operators can actually get into the data center game, what makes a site valuable, and why power capacity matters more than almost anything else.

Carson Jones

Entrepreneur, Real Estate Syndicator, Fund Manager, and Commercial Broker

Based in:

Nashville, Tennessee

Where to find them:

https://carsonscorner.media/

https://passive.investments/

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Ash and Amanda talk to Dipesh Sitaram, he went from oral surgery and TMJ practice to becoming the kind of investor most physicians wish they understood sooner: capitalized, disciplined, and hard to fool. After getting burned in passive deals and development projects, he rebuilt around one core idea, control the whole food chain, or get crushed by it.

He breaks down the playbook behind his family office strategy, including why he keeps deals all-equity, why he prefers newer assets over value-add headaches, and how he uses DSTs and private REIT structures to create tax-efficient exits and generational wealth transfer. You’ll hear how he sources all-cash acquisitions, uses institutional-style relationships to move assets, and why his team focuses on healthcare real estate, healthcare-adjacent active adult communities, and limited and full-service hotels.

Dipesh Sitaram

Founder of Acuere Capital Partners

Based in:

Austin, Texas

Where to find them:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dipeshsitaram

https://acuerecapital.com/

For more information, visit https://superhuman.com/.

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