It was my pleasure, after the Memorial Day WeDefy Open Mat at Hamel Jiu-Jitsu, to sit down and here Roque's story and stories and get his take on what it takes to earn a black belt in brazilian jiu-jitsu. We go from fighter to grappler, from white to black, and from California to Minnesota.

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