It came as a surprise recently to learn that I hadn’t interviewed Scott Seamer since 2003 when he flew from Ballina to be a guest on Sky’s Inside Racing programme. At the time of the interview the former northern rivers jockey had posted an amazing 15 Gr wins in two years following on from a Queensland Oaks victory on Ethereal in 2001. A few months later Scott landed the coveted Caulfield and Melbourne double on the same wonderful staying mare. Since quitting the saddle in 2011 the former ace jockey has joined the ranks of Australia’s commercial breeders. I was delighted he was able to find the time to join us on our regular racing podcast and equally delighted  to find him in reminiscent mood.  Scott was thrilled to see Ethereal’s trainer Sheila Laxon win her second Melbourne Cup with Knight’s Choice in November.

He talks about the transformation of his Fernleigh property from a macadamia farm to commercial breeding enterprise.

Scott says his first duty as a breeder was to find the right foundation mare. He’s now breeding from four of her daughters.

He talks of his breeding share in a high profile Queensland stallion.

The multiple Gr 1 winning jockey previews his four horse draft being prepared for the Inglis Classic Sale in February.

Scott remembers his unhappy departure from race riding at Doomben in late 2011.

He takes us back to his first time on a racecourse in the late 1970’s. He tagged along with his mother and stepfather to a Bowraville meeting, and was instantly hooked.

Scott looks back on a stablehand’s job with Coffs Harbour trainer John Hennessy, and the offer of an apprenticeship from Grafton trainer Ron Gosling.

Very clear in his memory is the occasion of his first race ride at Lismore. He tipped the scales at 32 kgs.

Scott talks of his thrilling first win at Casino and the transition to a metropolitan win at Eagle Farm in 1987.

He pays tribute to Protester,  the genuine bush galloper who gave him an amazing twenty wins.

The former ace jockey looks back on his relocation from the northern rivers to Glen Innes. He enjoyed a very successful five years from his tablelands base, and forged an association with a champion country trainer.

Scott talks of his decision to give Brisbane racing a serious shot. He was encouraged to make the move by outstanding jockey manager Trevor Lansky who brought him unexpected opportunities. 

Seamer talks of Ethereal’s outstanding win in the Queensland Oaks. She came with the barnstorming finish destined to become her trademark.

He admits to chasing the ride on the bonny mare when she resumed in NZ in the spring of 2001. He offered to pay his own way across the ditch.

Scott recalls his tense battle with Sky Heights in the Caulfield Cup, and the wet weather leading up to the Melbourne Cup. He takes us through Ethereal’s brilliant Cup win.

He talks about a McKinnon Stakes win on Derby day.

Thanks to his new NZ connections Scott was able to land some plum rides over the 2001 Auckland summer carnival. He looks back on a memorable Derby/Oaks double at Ellerslie. 

The former jockey started the new year with a bang winning the Magic Millions on Lovely Jubly. He recalls the race.

Scott remembers a successful autumn carnival in Melbourne highlighted by wins in the C.F Orr and Australian Guineas.

The former talented horseman still shakes his head when he thinks about a four win haul on Golden Slipper day 2002- two Gr 2’s and two Gr 1’s. He remembers the wins by Ethereal and Calaway Gal.

Seamer’s dazzling autumn win sequence earned him a short term contract in Hong Kong. He later wished that invitation hadn’t arrived. He fractured two vertebrae in a nasty fall and was out of action for several months.

Up to this point in time, Scott had been treated very kindly by the racing media. That changed when he was beaten on Bel Esprit in the Manikato Stakes. He handled it philosophically.

He says he felt the need to make a statement when the 2003 autumn carnival got under way in Sydney. He made the best kind of statement by winning the Australian Derby on Clangalang with a 10/10 ride.

The former jockey talks of another Derby win a short time later. He was thrilled to win the Queensland Derby for Bede Murray on Half Hennessy.

Scott talks of another Gr 1 win at the same carnival on Picaday in the T. J Smith Classic. 

He says he was delighted to win the 2004 Epsom for Tulloch Lodge on Desert War.

Scott looks back on his final Gr 1 victory. He made the trip back to NZ to win another Derby on Coniston Bluebird for the late Bede Murray.

The jockey turned commercial breeder pays a heartfelt tribute to Louise, his wife of twenty nine years and to twenty one year old daughter Caitlin who’s currently chasing a Uni degree in Business and Law.

This is a laid back chat with a former jockey whose story is an inspirational one. The tiny northern rivers apprentice who dared to dream. He worked hard and didn’t squander a single opportunity. His emergence to ride 22 Gr 1 winners is one of Australian racing’s most endearing tales. You’ll enjoy our trip down memory lane with Scott Seamer.

I’d lost count of the number of country racing fans who’d requested a podcast with retired jockey Graham Power. Whenever the subject of top Riverina jockeys had come up over the years, Graham’s name was always on the list. A phone call to check his availability and some quick research followed, and we were good to go. Great to present a podcast with a horseman who never rode a winner as an apprentice, but sure as hell made up for it later. Graham begins by looking back on his final day as a jockey at Wagga in 2000.

He says he was delighted to ride a winner on a very emotional day.

Graham talks about the way in which he handled the withdrawal symptoms.

He talks about his current involvement with the famous St. Vincents De Paul charity organisation in Wagga.

The former ace jockey refutes the theory that he’s a native of the Riverina. 

Graham talks about his childhood in Tamworth. He says there was no racing in his family background, but reveals that his grandfather Tom worked as a street sweeper in the 1920’s using horse and dray.

He remembers his first job on the ground in a Newcastle stable before a return to Tamworth and a short lived first apprenticeship. Injuries sustained in a race fall saw him walk away from racing and find a job at the local abbatoirs.

Graham recalls the chance conversation at a Tamworth race meeting that led to the renewal of his jockey’s licence.

He looks back on his friendship with trainer Bede Delaney whose move to Gundagai would change his life.  

Power reflects on the deeds of one of the best horses he rode for the Delaney stable, prolific winner Aurilandy. 

He talks of Aurilandy’s two wins down the famous Flemington straight and the opportunity to ride the horse in the famous Epsom Hcp. Nothing went right at his only Gr 1 ride.

Graham talks about his move to Wagga.

He acknowledges some of the handy horses he got to ride over the next few years. 

Graham looks back on a Cootamundra Cup win on a future Melbourne Cup winner. He thought very little of the horse at the time.

He remembers with affection wins in the Albury and Wagga Cups.

Graham remembers the Richard Freyer trained Prince Tone, a talented horse provided he didn’t have to travel too far to race meetings.

He pays tribute to several other bush Cup winners.

Graham delights in telling the story about his two rides on champion Kingston Town.

The former outstanding rider looks back on some special race days when he rode multiple winners on the programme.

He reels off some of the many jobs he’s had away from racing.

He talks of some of his favourite Riverina trainers and delights in the fact that he rode the first winner ever trained by Gary Portelli, now entrenched in the top bracket of Sydney’s trainers.

Graham pays tribute to a select group of his favourite country jockeys.

He looks back on some serious race falls including one in which he appeared to suffer no injuries.  By the time he got home the situation had changed dramatically.

The 79 year old talks of past involvement in racing administration and a current “on call” role for Racing NSW.

The versatile veteran talks back on his experience driving harness horses and a stint as a newspaper columnist.

He looks back on one of his proudest moments as a jockey-the occasion of his 1000th win on SDRA tracks.

Graham looks back on his two marriages and a double tragedy in his life. He pays tribute to daughter Tracey, and sons Steven and Ben.

A nostalgic  trip down memory lane with a man dubbed “the George Moore of Riverina racing” in his era by Sky Thoroughbred Central host Graeme White.

We catch up with Wagga based trainer Gary Colvin who added to his metropolitan record when Cambar scored a tradesmanlike win in the TAB Highway on Nov. 30th. Gary’s hoping Cambar will emulate the deeds of stable favourite Another One who won a Championship Final  in 2022 after having finished second the year before. Gary begins our podcast by talking about Cambar’s two early wins at Wagga when ridden by stable apprentice Holly Durnan.

He looks back on his purchase of the little colt at the Inglis Premier Sale in Melbourne. He got a second opinion from Warwick Farm trainer Greg Hickman who’d trained the colt’s sire Pierata.

Gary says Cambar has been a thorough professional from the day he was broken in.

The trainer retained a part ownership of the horse while the remaining shares were snapped up by old friends. He says one of the quartet is a first time participant.

Gary looks back on childhood days growing up with his six siblings on the family farm at Tullibigeal. He says his father was never without a horse or two on the property.

He pays tribute to uncles John and Noel Colvin, both very successful jockeys.

Gary says he was 17 when he joined three of his siblings in Wagga. He pleased his parents greatly when he registered for an apprenticeship in joinery. He talks of his progress in the old world trade.

He talks of his passion for Australian Rules Football, and reflects on his involvement with the Wagga Tigers and the Collingully side. He plays down reports that he was a very accomplished player.

Gary remembers his short stint in a coaching role.

He looks back on Fred Colvin’s move to Wagga and a renewal of his trainer’s licence. He assisted his father for eleven years while training a small team of his own. When Fred retired in 1997, he was ready to train in his own right.

Gary hasn’t forgotten the mare who provided the first win of his full time training career.

He acknowledges the special horses to get him up and running as a commercial trainer with special mention of Baltra and Lock the Key.

The accomplished trainer takes us through the circumstances leading up to his purchase of Another One at an Inglis Classic Sale. He’s never forgotten the instant he first saw the chestnut colt. 

Gary talks of Another One’s pedigree and the 15 strong syndicate who got together to race the horse.

The trainer recalls setting the talented horse for a maiden 2YO at Wagga. He and the owners were stunned when a Randwick trained youngster from the John O’Shea yard turned up for the same race.

He takes us through Another One’s progression to his first tilt at the Country Championship.

Gary followed a similar path the following year and the gelding again made the final at Randwick. This time he prevailed in the highly prized event. 

He pays tribute to Another One’s regular rider Nick Heywood who wages a fearsome battle with weight to stay in the saddle.

Gary talks of Another One’s Kosciuszko failure and his most recent wins in the Riverina.

The trainer speaks highly of Danny Beasley who rode the horse to victories in the Canberra National Sprint and the Wodonga Cup. Danny recently joined the Wagga training ranks and is situated right next door to the Colvin stables.

Gary talks of wife Karen’s picture framing business in Wagga, and his willingness to lend a hand in the early days of the operation. He says his assistance was not needed. 

Gary talks of daughter Gabby who’s currently a highly regarded member of the Melbourne Women’s AFL side. Her dad’s pretty chuffed.

He makes mention of sons Brodie and Matthew. One prefers the thrill of trying to back a winner- the other enjoys being around the horses.

Good to catch up with yet another talented member of the country training ranks.

Good to catch up with a young jockey who’s forged a prominent spot among the powerful Sydney riding ranks in recent years. The Waterhouse/Bott duo supply regular rides to Adam Hyeronimus  in recognition of his unrelenting work ethic. He currently has 4 Gr 1 winners on his CV along with numerous stakes wins. We were able to pin Adam down last week for a lengthy chat about the early days of his apprenticeship and the road he’s since travelled. 

He begins by referencing the wonderful support he receives from Tulloch Lodge.

Adam says he’s no natural lightweight and needs to watch his diet at all times.

It’s well known that Adam descends from a family of jockeys on both sides of his pedigree. He pays tribute to those who’ve preceded him. 

Adam makes special mention of his maternal grandfather the late Reg Paine, a former legend on western districts tracks. He also acknowledges the deeds of uncles Neil and Rodney Paine, both talented riders in their own right. He explains that two of his cousins are married to high profile jockeys.

The popular jockey looks back on early days at Cowra when he gained expert riding tuition from a local trainer.

He talks about a succession of trainers with whom he spent parts of his apprenticeship.

Adam clearly recalls his first ever race ride at Bathurst in 2008.

He looks back on his time with Grafton trainer John Shelton who supplied his first winning ride. Adam takes no credit for the win.

With Shelton’s support Hyeronimus decided to finish his apprenticeship in Sydney. He had a short time with Jason Coyle before transferring to Gai Waterhouse. He says it was a long time before Gai found him a job.

Adam received an immense thrill when he was able to win the inaugural Kosciuszko for his old boss John Shelton. He talks affectionately of the veteran bush gelding Belflyer.

He’d been having back problems before he was dislodged from a horse at Randwick on Everest day 2019. The harmless tumble exacerbated his problems to the extent that he was sidelined for 3 months.

Adam recalls how close he went to opening his Gr 1 account on outsider Prince Fawaz in the Rosehill Guineas. He gave Castelvecchio a big fright.

He says he didn’t have to wait long to get the Gr 1 monkey off his back. Just one week later he led all the way to win the Vinery Stud Stakes for Waterhouse/Bott on Shout The Bar.

Many people in racing address Adam by the nickname of “Hippo”. He explains how and when his well known sobriquet originated.

The jockey looks back on the lowest point in his career- the prolonged investigation into his betting activities which would see him banned for two years and four months. He talks of the impact it had on his life and the time he spent in outside employment.

Adam says his weight soared during the long layoff.

He talks of his change in attitude after such a major disruption to his livelihood.

Hyeronimus was chuffed to win his second Gr 1 on the gutsy filly Tropical Squall for his greatest supporters.

The talented jockey was grateful to receive a top Gr 1 ride from the Godolphin organisation in the Spring Champion Stakes. He rode Tom Kitten perfectly to win the important three year old race. 

Adam was thrilled to win another Gr 1 on the genuine filly Tropical Squall.

He talks of his short but successful association with the imposing colt Storm Boy who’s now in training with Aidan O’Brien at Ballydoyle. A Magic Millions win was a huge thrill for the jockey.

Adam talks of his near miss on Lady Of Camelot in the Blue Diamond Stakes. He thought he was home.

A good chat with a young horseman whose future looks assured in the fiercely competitive Sydney jockey’s room.

We’ve had several requests for a podcast with former jockey and popular Sky Thoroughbred Central presenter Bernadette Cooper. The enquirers were unaware Bernie had already been one of our podcast guests, as far back as April of 2019. 

Another email in the past week has settled the issue. We’re going to pluck the five and a half year old podcast from the archives and give it another run. 

One of Bernie’s roles at the time was to interview winning jockeys immediately after major races had been run at the major Sydney carnivals. She conducted those interviews on horseback as Billy Slater did so smoothly at the recent Melbourne Cup carnival. The popular host was disappointed when contractual arrangements between Racing NSW and Channel 7 precluded her from being the first to interview Hugh Bowman after Winx’s swansong victory in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes. 

She talks of the emotions shown by winning riders after the Gr 1 races- some more expressive than others.

Bernie looks back on her final riding stint in Macau where she was involved in the worst fall of her entire career.

She talks of a winning treble on her first day back in the saddle, and the shock she received when stewards accused her of not allowing another horse to run on its merits. 

The former jockey talks of her return to Australia and a whole new life beginning with a job behind the front desk at the Star Casino.

Then came her lucky break in racing media, and she’s never looked back.

A few little things have changed since the original podcast. For instance Bernie’s daughter Stella is now 17, still studying ballet but heavily involved in the furthering of her education.

It’s always good to pluck a past gem from the archives. Bernadette Cooper is one of the warmest personalities in Australian racing media. She was at her best in this 2019 podcast.

Given the choice Peter Morgan would rather be spending time with his horses than standing around with a mobile phone. He very kindly made an exception for us last week, and we’ve been able to capture some of his recollections of a life with horses. Peter talks firstly about his talented galloper Burrandana whose first up win at Gundagai recently proved he’s on track for a TAB Highway mission.

The veteran trainer talks of Burrandana’s troublesome feet.

Peter says he actually bred the horse.

He looks back on Burrandana’s form line with special mention of the Wagga win that was taken off him. A substance used on another horse in the stable showed up in Burrandana’s post race swab.

Pete says a very hefty fine ensued.

The trainer talks of Burrandana’s five TAB Highway attempts. He hasn’t been able to win one yet, but he’s knocking on the door.

Peter speaks of Burrandana’s owners, long time clients David Lloyd and Geoff Miller.

He mentions another recent winner from the stable in Unique Prince who’s due back in work following a break.

Peter looks back on early days in Melbourne under the tutelage of his grandfather Frank Kernaghan. He says Frank was a skilful trainer who was rarely without a handy horse. He had one very talented hurdler.

He says one piece of advice offered by his grandfather has remained with him over half a century.

Peter was apprenticed to Frank Kernaghan and had a short stint as a jockey. He rates his talents in the saddle.

He talks of the legendary jockeys he got to know in the 1960’s. He says one of them took an interest in his progress.

During his apprenticeship at Flemington Peter got to know some famous trainers. He makes mention of a couple.

Peter says he eventually borrowed boxes from his grandfather to get his own training career under way.

He runs through a list of horses who helped to get him up and running as a professional trainer.

Peter moved to Albury in 1974 and brought with him a promising apprentice jockey.

The trainer acknowledges other talented jockeys who’ve given him good service since moving to the Riverina.

Peter says the art of horse training has changed dramatically in recent times.

He talks of the accessibility of racetracks from his Wagga base.

Peter mentions some of the trainers he’s most admired.

In naming the best horse he’s seen in six decades, the veteran plumps unequivocally for Tobin Bronze. We share a few memories of the great horse.

The laconic trainer doesn’t waste words in taking us back over his journey in racing.

We had our podcast interview with Keith Ballard safely “in the can” before he reported for duty at Saturday’s Julia Creek Cup fixture at Mount Isa. It’s now history that the legendary jockey went out a winner on the final ride of his 55 year career. Keith was winless in the first four races, but turned it around in the last when he went straight to the lead on Metal Bar and romped home by more than five lengths in the Julia Creek Cup. The fairy tale was enhanced by the fact that Keith’s wife Denise trains the winner. Two days earlier we caught up with the 71 year old to reminisce a little about his remarkable career. He began by revealing that Denise had been trying to get him to retire for quite some time.

He talks about a recent Cloncurry win on Capiteel for his trainer wife and acknowledges the support of trainer Tanya Parry.

Keith talks about Denise’s former riding career in an era when female jockeys were battling for recognition.

He says Denise isn’t too tough on him when his judgement is astray.

The veteran says he was humbled in the extreme when the Ballards of Mount Isa were inducted into the Racing Queensland Hall Of Fame in 2021.

Keith talks about the likelihood of withdrawal symptoms in the months ahead.

The evergreen horseman says his nerve has remained intact. 

He gives a few reasons for his longevity as a professional jockey.

The Longreach born horseman says he was initially inspired by the riding success of his uncle Jim Ballard. 

Keith pays tribute to his stoic and hard working mother, and speaks of his six brothers.

He recalls his very first race ride, and an unforgettable first win on the very same horse. 

Keith says he’s been relatively lucky when it comes to race falls, but he looks back on one bad buster at age 62- the worst fall in his long career.

That fall occurred at remote McKinlay best known as the venue for many scenes in the famous Crocodile Dundee movies.

Keith remembers some of the best horses he’s ridden over more than half a century. His number one vote goes to Mr Ziesel, big by stature and big on ability.

He pays tribute to the consistent Kerr Street. He won nine races on the horse in one season including the 1983 Darwin Cup.

Keith remembers King Wells. He won 17 races on the former Victorian.

The veteran says his career wouldn’t have been complete without a Birdsville Cup win. He ticked that one off the bucket list in 2009.

Keith talks about Sahara Canadian. He won 11 races on the grey, including one at faraway Ballina.

He talks about another prolific winner in Be Somebody. He once drove 1000km to ride the horse at Darwin even though he knew the gelding couldn’t win.

Keith pays tribute to a handful of jockeys for whom he had special admiration.

He makes special mention of a talented bush trainer.

Keith pays a heartfelt tribute to son Dan, a very talented jockey whose career has been terminated by weight problems.

Ballard says his failure to ride a metropolitan winner doesn’t faze him too much.

He talks about a handful of other jockeys who rode into advanced years.

It was a great pleasure to talk to a genuine Queensland racing icon.

It was mid October when I invited Ray Hadley to be special guest on the occasion of our 500th podcast episode. Never once during the conversation did the legendary broadcaster so much as hint that he was contemplating calling time on his 2GB morning programme. We made arrangements to record the interview on the afternoon of Thursday November 5th. Like many of his listeners and colleagues I was stunned, when less than an hour into his programme on Thursday Ray made the shock announcement that December 13th is to be his final day in the 2GB studios. Television news crews were setting up in the building long before he finished his on air shift at midday. The broadcaster was inevitably “swamped” by media outlets for several hours. I wouldn’t have been one bit surprised had he requested a postponement of our podcast interview, but I should have known better. True to his word Ray was ready to go when I called him as arranged at 4.30pm. I reminded him  that nobody had seen this coming.

He admitted it was a surreal experience to be announcing his own retirement from mainstream radio.

I asked Ray to identify the likely reasons he was able to win 160 consecutive surveys.

He nominated one particular story where his on air comments contributed to a better outcome.

Ray made no secret of the fact that he won’t be lost to media, but says the days of 3.30am wake up calls are over. 

He takes us back to childhood days as the son of hard working parents Morris and Elsie Hadley.

Ray looks back on the massive impact of his father’s death at just 46 years of age.

He shares some funny stories from his eight years with Steers Auctions at Parramatta. He believes his experience as an auctioneer helped to develop his commentary skills. 

Ray says he was chuffed beyond belief in the early 80’s when offered the role of Harold Park course broadcaster following the retirement of Ray Conroy. 

He takes us back to the days immediately after the Super League war when 2UE lost its Rugby League broadcast rights. 2UE’s Continuous Call team made history when it continued to win the ratings without broadcasting the game. 

Ray pays a special tribute to the man they called “The Starmaker.” 2UE Programme Director the late John Brennan was lauded in the industry for his unique ability to spot potential talent from a mile off. 

Ray Hadley’s career took a life changing turn in 2002 when John Singleton purchased 2GB. He initially poached Ray from 2UE to call Rugby League, but changed his mind soon after. The broadcaster was stunned when “Singo” asked him to take over the morning programme in opposition to 2UE’s John Laws. Ray shares the full story.

The multiple award winning broadcaster says he has no regrets about missing the opportunity to call 100 State Of Origins.

Ray was privileged to be a member of the commentary team for seven Olympic Games. He says Cathy Freeman’s unforgettable win in the 400m at the Sydney Olympics remains his fondest memory.

He was agreeable to looking back on what he describes as the lowest point in his long career- the 2019 bullying allegations from a small group of staff members. He looks back with candour on a very unhappy time in his life.

Ray talks with great affection of his children and grandchildren. Today he’s the quintessential doting grandfather.

It’s a massive coincidence that Ray’s retirement announcement came just a few hours before this podcast was recorded. No wonder he was in the mood to reminisce. Great to have him on our 500th podcast episode.

The story of the Freedman era is one of racing’s all time best - four enthusiastic young brothers who made an amazing journey from the family stud farm at Yass to the establishment of a Victorian based training powerhouse. Lee held sway as trainer with Anthony, Richard and Michael handling crucial roles in the background. Together they had an enormous impact on Australian racing for three decades. Lee won seven Melbourne trainer’s premierships and was runner up six times. Today the boys are all training under their own banners with Lee opting for a much quieter life on the Gold Coast. The former leader of the FBI was very gracious with his time on this week’s podcast. He begins by berating his talents as a golfer.

Lee talks about his current 31 horse team, a fraction of the number he trained in the busiest days of the FBI.

He talks of the wide choice of race meetings he has from his Gold Coast base.

Lee takes us back to early days at Hardwicke Stud near Yass, where he and his siblings gained sound education under the supervision of father Tony.

He delights in telling the story of his first win as a trainer with a quirky but very talented grey called Sitting Bull. It was hard to keep news of the horse’s talent under wraps. 

Lee says his training career actually began at Warwick Farm.

He looks back on a relocation to Flemington and a mare called Sauna - the daughter of Loosen Up who put the Freedmans on the map.

Lee hasn’t forgotten the thrill of a maiden Gr 1 win.

He reflects on the rapid rise of the FBI and the simple theory he had about stress management.

We needed to get started on Lee’s reminiscences of the many wonderful horses to come through the Freedman operation. Who better to begin with than the incomparable Makybe Diva. She arrived in the Freedman camp having won 8 races for David Hall including her first Melbourne Cup. Lee recalls his expectations. 

He reflects on his first win with the mighty mare, the 2004 Melbourne Cup.

The trainer recalls the mare’s dominance in the autumn and spring of 2005, and the memorable comments he made in a TV interview after her third Cup win- comments which have passed into folklore.

Lee gives his view on why she was such an athlete.

The great trainer looks back on wonderful journeys with crowd favourites Subzero and Doriemus, two more Melbourne Cup winners.

It’s not hard to tell Super Impose was one of Lee’s great favourites. He shares some special memories.

Lee puts into words his  enormous admiration for Naturalism. 

The list of good horses to pass through the Freedman’s hands is seemingly endless. He sings the praises of Mahogany and Schillaci.

The Golden Slipper was a mighty race for the Freedmans in the 1990’s. Lee talks about their four consecutive wins in the famous two year old race.

Durbridge is another marvellous horse to get the thumbs up from his former trainer.

The legendary trainer will surprise some when he says his greatest racetrack thrill came outside Australia. He looks back on his Royal Ascot journey with Miss Andretti.

Lee used some of Australia’s greatest jockeys during the golden years of the Freedman reign. He’s prepared to single one of them out for special praise. 

He speaks with pride of daughters Emma and Georgia.

Lee pays tribute to his greatest ever supporter, late mother Del who passed just two years ago.

He pays tribute to Anthony, Richard and Michael who have each forged great individual careers.

A podcast with Lee Freedman is long overdue. We’re delighted to finally get it done.

A hat trick of recent country wins by improving gelding My Last Hooray rekindled memories of Frank Cleary’s glory days in Australian racing. The popular trainer wound down his training operation following two health scares in 2020, and has been training only a handful of horses in recent times. He even hinted that he may walk away from a business that took him to racing’s biggest stage. On learning that My Last Hooray isn’t the only horse on his books, we decided to investigate the immediate future of the Queanbeyan based trainer. He certainly doesn’t confirm likely retirement.

Frank talks about two unraced young horses currently in his care.

He reflects on the chest pains that sent him to hospital in 2020, and a second ailment that followed closely on his heart scare.

Frank talks of the racing involvement in his family background.

It’s well known that a young Frank Cleary showed great promise as a rugby league player in pivotal positions. He says he actually started in the Aussie Rules code.

Switching to league in the late 60’s he quickly gained a spot in the Queanbeyan Blues Under 18’s side.

He looks back on two encounters with a touring British test side.

Frank says several niggling injuries eventually finished his football career and sent him in the direction of a new livelihood. You won’t believe some of the things he did for a living in his pre horse training days.  

He says his life changed dramatically the day he attended an Inglis Tried Stock sale and came away with a $1400 unraced gelding. That horse shaped Frank’s destiny.

The trainer says he had to wait a long time for his first Gr 1 win but it happened to be in one of the oldest classics on the AJC calendar.

Select Prince was by Imperial prince as was another Cleary favourite Friend’s Venture. Frank says he was an amazing horse.

The trainer thought someone was “pulling his leg” when he got a phone call from a man purporting to be an American owner asking him to train a horse.

Frank remembers the late Ken T. Jones who continued to support his stable for several years. He remembers the unsound horse who motivated Jones’ original phone call.

Cleary has never forgotten a day at the Gold Coast Sale when Ken Jones had to be talked into buying a Zoffany colt who was destined to become one of Australia’s best two year olds of 1992.

Frank remembers Clan O’Sullivan’s impressive early form and his defeat in the 1992 Golden Slipper when he got no favours.

Fast forward some six years and Frank recalls the purchase of a Danehill colt who would atone for Clan O’Sullivan’s Slipper defeat.

Frank takes us back to the events of Slipper day 1999 when the hot pre post favourite was a late scratching from the famous two year old race. He pays tribute to jockey Mark de Montfort.

He looks at a few other good money spinners to carry the Ken Jones colours.

Frank looks back on a bold move he instigated in the late 1990’s. He decided to give training a try in the big smoke when stables became available in a new block at Rosehill. His neighbour was a young Kiwi trainer who was testing the water in Sydney.

The veteran trainer says there were no stars in the stable during his Sydney stint, but a few handy horses kept him ticking over.

He talks of a flying visit to Melbourne with a horse called Shot Of Comfort. It was a good result for the stable and for owner Dominic Beirne. 

Frank was chuffed to win his only hometown Cup with Bomber Command in 2009.

He reflects with delight with his all time top training effort- six wins 

on the Forbes Cup programme in 1994.

The trainer pays a heartfelt tribute to his wife Sue.

Frank gives a shout out to his four sons with special mention of Joe who’s rapidly gaining recognition as a trainer in his own right.

It’s a lovely trip down memory lane with one of the real characters of the Australian training ranks.