What does it mean to be a man? This is a lively and revealing three-way conversation with Mark, Kelly, and our returning guest Jon Carl Lewis (and our first episode in a long time in which we’ve had the pleasure of a guest in-studio with us!) that spans a wide range of topics related to the spirituality and embodiment of masculinity—whether straight, queer, or trans.  

Using as our jumping-off point the shared experience of being adult men facing the challenges of caring for and losing parents, the conversation then deepens into discussing the paradox of being simultaneously men of the world and “children of God,” balancing trusting God to help with our troubles and doing what we can in our power as well, and the need that even the strongest man has for community. Oh yeah, and then we start taking about sexuality as well! Listen for the first half of this candid, soul-baring conversation!    

Jon Carl Lewis describes himself as “your average queer, liberative theologian and spiritual guide.” His work invites” individuals and communities into conversation around how integration of the spiritual and the sexual/erotic can enliven and reconcile people of faith to themselves, the sacred, their communities, and all of creation.” His Substack is called “Ramblings (of a Queer, Christian Contemplative) (queerchristianramblings.substack.com).

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