"Heavyweight Champion of the World" singer Jon McClure "The Reverend" from Reverend And The Makers and comedian Rich Wilson explore live music, the creative scene in Sheffield, and the balance between family life and a music career. They discuss the importance of mental health, the joy of performance, and the responsibility of artists to be honest about their struggles. The conversation also touches on working-class representation in the arts and the magic of creativity, culminating in the announcement of Da Rev's new Christmas single, Late Night Phone Call supporting Samaritans.

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