The Bitcoin Matrix

Josh Mandell’s $84K Prophecy: Genius, Luck, or Something Else? We Debate


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This episode is a recording of an X Space I had the pleasure of hosting on March 24th. It features a compelling debate between Kevin Brent Cook and Grain of Salt on Josh Mandell’s precise and publicly stated prediction that Bitcoin would hit $84,000 on Pi Day, March 14th.

Kevin argues that many are being fooled by randomness. Grain believes Josh is simply an elite trader — and maybe even tapped into something unconventional. Memories, multiverses, time loops? Who knows.

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Josh Mandell on X: https://x.com/JoshMandell6

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––– Chapters –––

00:00 - Intro

02:30 - Kevin, Grain of Salt and Joe Carlasare's Backstories

07:30 - Discovering Probability & Mental Models in Trading

12:30 - Why Kevin Created Risk Software for the Brain

17:30 - Grain’s Bitcoin Origin Story & Full Send in 2017

22:30 - The Market Isn’t Efficient: Arbitraging Belief and Behavior

27:30 - Was Josh’s Prediction a Fluke or a Skill?

32:30 - The Power of Positioning and Mindset in Trading

37:30 - Memory, Multiverses & Numerology in Market Prediction

42:30 - The CME Gap, Sovereign FOMO & Options Mechanics

47:30 - Philosophical Clash: Rationality vs Comfort with the Unknown

52:30 - Closing Thoughts I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude to all of you for tuning in, supporting the show, and contributing. Thank you for listening!

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