Joy of Missing Out (JOMO)

From corporate life in our 20s to working in the creator space, we’ve learned a lot from our experiences. This is what we wish we’d known before reaching our 30s.

0:57 Chloe joined the sock gang

2:11 living the life you want

4:14 just f***ing do it

6:52 I like your face

9:22 pickleball partners on tinder? not euphemism

13:47 maybe I have ADHD 

17:32 the reality of "I'm Single. Again." 

21:32 Chloe slides into the DMs

24:34 exclusive patreon content... free Eric

28:05 be unafraid to fail

29:53 you don't have to say yes

31:15 managers can make/break your career

33:38 build a great sense of self

35:28 read Designing Your Life

37:32 don't compare your bts to someone's highlight reel

38:17 the grass is greener where you water it

38:43 therapy is really lit

41:36 being alone is not lonely

43:26 love yourself

46:45 choose the f***s you're willing to give out

48:00 question everything and build a b***s*** meter

49:19 negotiate the heck out of your salary

50:02 don't be afraid of money 

51:52 how you do anything is how you do everything

52:54 the grind is not the only game to play

53:59 no one is going to give a s*** about your career, you gotta fully own it

54:23 get out of victim mentality 

57:23 you are the average of the top five influences around you

58:34 nobody really cares

59:04 just assume you have talent 

1:00:35 play the infinite game

1:03:16 it's never an overnight success

1:03:40 health is wealth

1:04:25 how to find the "One"

1:05:57 learn to let go

1:07:16 it may not be your fault, but it is your responsibility 

1:07:45 know your "why"

1:09:14 being busy is a trap

1:10:18 not one but TEN lessons

1:13:19 nobody knows s***

1:13:59 you don't suck

1:14:42 you get to make a choice

So a lot has happened since we last met... like Eric met THE Biden.

As you can tell it was a crazy week for Eric as he traveled across several states and met lots of people including Fred Liu and the Mr.Beast team. Meanwhile Chloe was having an emotional journey rather than a physical one. There's lots of lessons learned this week, including some great advice from Jimmy and Jaime about handling self-hatred and hiring in the creator space.

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️

𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway

co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/

tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Jayna Benito

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0:00 Biden wants to be a content creator??

0:22 shirtless Eric

0:52 our intrusive thoughts available on patreon

2:13 end this debate: jomillionaire vs jomo angel

3:25 let the man rot

7:04 you need to act like you're the s***

8:58 Eric cried in some dude's basement

11:33 the 1/3 rule for relationships

14:35 the mysterious Coxsackie car

17:10 Eric butchers Korean

18:18 buddy got neutered :(

20:24 Chloe is an extreme J

23:06 Eric meets Fred Liu and gives him a book

26:00 some man has good real estate and BAM billboard

27:49 meeting the POTUS

31:45 Eric became a hand model

34:23 friendship core memories

36:40 4 hour road trip for a 50% chance with the Mr.Beast team

39:45 Eric stayed up late to read a manhwa with a reincarnated hot man

44:20 doing the community a service

47:10 Chloe was going through it

50:29 Advice #1 you need to let go of negative energy

54:27 Advice #2 you need to change your perspective

55:16 Advice #3 be the hero of your life, not the victim

58:39 Why constrain yourself for your own story?

1:03:33 we love jaime aka igumdrop

1:05:09 we also love adrian aka omgadrian

1:06:37 hiring tip #1: gauging for grit

1:07:49 hiring tip #2: believe in the mission

1:09:46 lots of creators at the jackpot screening

1:12:52 what are Eric’s pickleball skills REALLY like?

1:14:10 Chloe’s locked in on 30 lessons at 30

1:16:44 getting our lives where they need to be

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Nobody likes to be wrong. Feedback is always difficult whether it be on the giving or receiving side. This week’s episode is a heartfelt one as we share our experiences receiving feedback in our corporate jobs and now giving feedback as the bosses in our creative endeavors.

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0:00 fake feedback

Today's episode is going to be a judgy one because we are ranking everyone and every situation you can encounter in the tech world. From the person who never has their camera on to the LinkedIn influencers we've seen our fair share of them. We are joined by Chloe's husbando, Kevin, to add the software engineer POV. In our rankings we are not holding back and giving our brutally honest thoughts. From jail to invited to pickleball to a jomie we got all the tiers covered. Get nice and cozy because this is gonna be a wild ride.

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0:00 the Chloe, Kevin echochamber

0:44 patreon launched!

5:21 Chloe’s husbando with the swe pov

6:35 tier list explained

9:44 disclaimer: no vanilla wholesome today

11:12 never has their camera on

13:35 way too into boba

14:28 dyes their hair blue or purple

15:34 engineer who wants a farm

16:38 has massive imposter syndrome

18:35 works in mobile gaming

19:39 exec that won't get a real mic

22:16 Berkeley EECS grads

24:53 mental health leave post on LinkedIn

26:00 Koolaid drinkers

27:13 doesn't have a bedframe

29:03 omakase and niku guy

29:57 Canadians/Waterloo

31:17 probably working a 2nd job

32:14 still uses firefox

33:11 always snow boarding

34:04 engineers that think ur flirting with them

34:59 sends long message at 5 pm on a Friday

36:06 dual monitor, mech keyboard, ergo desk + chair set up

36:54 the type that posts on Blind

37:38 says they're poor but makes 6 figs

38:34 really, really into coffee

39:40 staff engineer who "has no filter"

41:10 gets into office at 7 am

42:05 VCs

43:04 lowkey nepo baby

43:35 white tesla drivers

44:42 PM turned startup founder

46:21 HR

47:27 diversity hire

48:48 LinkedIn influencers

49:32 startup CEO that keeps pivoting

50:18 extreme biohacker

51:53 new grads

52:25 Forbes 30U30 lister

54:27 "hi" with no follow up

55:33 slack s***poster

56:05 RPMs

57:00 interns

57:42 bootcamp engineers

58:27 only promotion projects

59:13 ladder climbers

59:58 brings their dog to the office

1:00:20 wanna go rock climbing

1:00:53 "tech jobs that make 6 figure" creators

1:02:18 hosts board game nights

1:02:50 weebs

1:03:38 sold 2 startups and now "consults"

1:04:34 only works at FAANG

1:04:42 doesn't work on a real desk or chair

1:05:59 swipes in for lunch and leaves

1:06:16 only wears free tech shirts

1:06:56 the aquihires

1:07:20 SF techies

1:09:08 LA techies

1:10:12 Seattle techies

1:10:20 NY techies

1:10:33 engineer with a really loud keyboard

1:11:21 has a photo of Elon on their desk

1:11:49 Tahoe trip planner

1:12:16 wears patagonia vests & chinos

1:12:25 guy who always complains about dating

1:14:02 crypto bros

1:14:18 looks like a recruiter, is a recruiter

1:14:58 DIML techtokers

1:15:58 MBA grad name dropper

1:16:02 PM/design GF + SE boyfriend

1:17:10 Dr. Fei-Fei Li

1:17:36 Daddy Zuck

1:18:20 Sheryl Sandberg

1:18:39 Daddy Jensen

1:19:30 Elon Musk

1:22:08 disclaimer: all for funsies

1:23:25 JOMO out

so...eric's back on the market. any takers? 👀 jk, but maybe? 🙄

last week's episode was about the *art* of networking - how to get INTO the group. this week is about how you get kicked OUT of one. it's social faux pas, what NOT to do, and what gives us the ick.

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️

𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠@trykarat) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway

co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(@chloeshih) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/

tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Lucas Falkavage and Jayna Benito

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0:00 no queen, you slay!

0:45 the truth about our patreon...

2:23 eric's filthy toes

3:02 horseback riding with the BOYZ

7:29 feeling better about building this startup

9:30 being with people we don't like

10:04 chloe's events w/ Asian Founders Network and Beacons

11:16 eric pinging chloe's discord manager

11:45 chloe fumbled at beacons dinner

13:32 chloe's hosting lenalemon and stellachuu

14:18 the mystery of grandma

15:42 chloe's mental breakdown

16:50 so there was this creepy tech guy...

20:22 kicking people out + setting boundaries

21:51 doing reference checks on the creep

22:59 I just found out he did that...

23:49 when you don't like your friend's friend

27:40 what's socially NOT ok?

29:00 what gets you BANNED

30:13 who's +1 are they?!

31:43 the emperor has no clothes

34:02 they snuck in and used us, wtf?

36:05 the attachment style theory

39:01 your problem is my problem

40:18 resolving conflicts w family (daddy chill!)

42:31 resolving conflicts in relationships

44:48 chloe left her nonprofit

46:11 stanford's touchy feely learnings

49:25 the feedback given to eric

51:04 what to do with fringe friends you don't like

53:02 social faux pas!

57:03 how to pass the vibe check

1:01:51 story: chloe's mentor

1:04:01 people talk...

1:05:41 takeaways: u gotta be a hater

1:06:46 a study on cutting off your family

1:09:28 don't lie

“It’s all about who you know.”

We’re constantly told to go out there and network, to the point where we feel like we can’t miss a single event. And the million dollar question: what if you're an introvert?

From our years in corporate and now the content space, we've been to our fair share of networking events and picked up a few tips along the way. This episode is a dump of the stories, the L's, and insider tips we've gathered on the art of networking.

Friends - everyone needs them, but why are real ones so hard to find? Spoiler alert: it doesn't get easier once you're an adult. In fact it gets even more complicated once you throw work, spouses, and everyone doing their own thing into the mix. Episode 8 is about the best and worst parts of friendship, from the toxicity and cliques to the people you meet who make all of the drama worthwhile.

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Nothing we do feels like enough. It’s easy to look at someone’s accomplishments on paper and think they have it all...but Episode 7 is all about the mental tax that comes with constantly striving for that next accomplishment.

Full-time content or back to tech...what about neither? Chloe has been defining her own path, which along the way has led her to sign a huge contract with a Taiwanese ed-tech company and contemplate launching her own TV show. Similarly, Eric's involvement in both business and content has him going from VC pitch meetings to hanging out in the Sway House with some of the world's biggest influencers. What is that lifestyle like, and is it really worth it?

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️

𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway

co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/

tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Jayna Benito

𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸

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0:00 uwu and meet buddy

1:23 why was Chloe in Taiwan

3:37 Chloe’s product course!

5:32 why Kevin had to fly to Taiwan 

6:51 Chloe’s family reunion 

11:06 being a full time creator - is it profitable? Worth it?

13:16 why Chloe doesn’t want to do just tech or content

15:45 what are you gonna do then?

18:30 jUsT sTarT a cOmpAnY

20:55 what Chloe really cares about

26:53 content is too grabby

28:53 it only takes Eric 15 mins to do this??

32:22 what do we call Chloe’s path

33:10 star studded pickleball tournament

36:39 the mentor who changed Chloe’s life

41:23 Chloe and Eric’s takes on how to actually find a mentor

45:13 awkward networking stories

49:32 why you have to be self promotional

51:10 eric’s experience at sway house

52:26 how content complements Eric’s entrepreneurship

59:00 taiwanese slang M3Ⓜ️3️⃣

1:01:21 creators are tired

1:07:14 familial duties - parents, chloe junior

1:11:56 JOMO out

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