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JR Sawyers – The First Film About Set, Setting, and Psychedelic Therapy? A Trip Elsewhere


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In this deeply personal and eye-opening episode, we sit down with filmmaker JR Sawyers, the mind behind the indie psychedelic drama A Trip Elsewhere. What begins as a conversation about a film turns into a powerful exploration of transformation, healing, and consciousness.

JR opens up about the psychedelic retreat that changed his life, the emotional weight of isolation during the pandemic, and how he turned those experiences into cinematic storytelling. We dive into the emotional architecture of A Trip Elsewhere, the science and stigma of psychedelics, and how visuals can speak to the soul when words fall short.

From ego death to sacred geometry, from heartbreak to healing—this episode is as introspective and surreal as the film itself. Whether you’re curious about psychedelics, passionate about indie film, or just looking for a conversation with real heart, this one is not to be missed.

🎬 A Trip Elsewhere is streaming now on Amazon Prime, Tubi, Apple TV, and the Roku Channel.

Takeaways

  • J.R. Sawyers is an independent filmmaker inspired by introspective films.
  • His film explores the therapeutic effects of psychedelics.
  • Sawyers experienced a transformative retreat that influenced his filmmaking.
  • The film's visuals aim to capture the essence of psychedelic experiences.
  • Character development reflects different emotional struggles and transformations.
  • The future of psychedelics in therapy looks promising with increasing acceptance.
  • Sawyers drew inspiration from various books and films to shape his narrative. Actors appreciated the character journeys in the film.
  • Filmmaking was a way to relive the retreat experience.
  • Setting and guidance are crucial for psychedelic experiences.
  • Sawyers is working on a horror film about a possessed psychiatrist.
  • The film addresses the silent pandemic of mental health issues.
  • Psychedelics can help build empathy in a disconnected world.
  • Letting go is essential during psychedelic experiences.
  • He has never had a bad trip, highlighting the need for guidance.

Again, thank you to everyone who is supporting on Patreon, all of the music entries (DylAlien, Flintwich, and Future Boogz), everyone who has helped with scheduling and booking, and last but not least, r/psychonaut.

 00:00 – Intro & Guest Welcome
 02:00 – Inspirations & Origins
 04:00 – First Psychedelic Retreat Experience
 07:00 – Translating Psychedelics to Film
10:30 – The Visual & Emotional Grammar of A Trip Elsewhere
14:00 – Character Arcs & Psychological Themes
18:00 – Real-Life Moments That Made the Film
21:00 – Therapeutic Psychedelics: Real Science, Real Stories
25:00 – Set, Setting, and Integration
30:00 – Viewer Reactions, Misconceptions & Mother’s Transformation
34:00 – The Future of Psychedelics in Film and Medicine
37:00 – Behind the Scenes: Budget, Casting & Visual Storytelling
41:00 – New Projects & Final Reflections
44:00 – Advice for Psychedelic Newcomers
47:00 – Outro & Where to Watch A Trip Elsewhere

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