Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

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In this episode, Don and Tom tackle investor emotion during market highs and use a Schwab-inspired scenario to show how discipline beats market timing—every time. They walk through four fictional investors (lucky, disciplined, unlucky, and fearful) to reveal the long-term value of staying invested. The hosts also answer a listener’s question about breaking into the fiduciary advice world and finish with a blistering takedown of FIBA, a so-called fiduciary group pushing high-commission annuities to federal workers. This one’s part reality check, part rally cry.

0:04 Emotional investing and the danger of reacting to market highs

1:13 Why timing the market is so tempting—and so wrong

2:35 Four investor scenarios: lucky, disciplined, unlucky, and the guy who sat it out

5:03 20-year returns: how even the worst timing beat sitting in T-bills

6:25 Discipline as a risk-reduction strategy and emotional filter

8:16 Worst-case fear vs real-world data: even the unlucky come out ahead

9:21 Market rebounds: faster than most think, from 2008 to 2025

10:28 The fourth golden rule: Discipline beats market noise

13:03 Listener Zach thanks Tom—phone call advice pays off

13:34 Listener “Long” asks how to become a fiduciary advisor

14:55 Why financial skills alone don’t make great advisors

16:38 Should you start at a sales-driven firm? Probably not

18:04 Better idea: get your Series 65, find a DFA firm, study for CFP

20:08 Sales skills matter—but you don’t have to sell your soul

20:55 Listener asks about FIBA and a “too good to be true” annuity pitch

21:48 FIBA’s fake fiduciary claim and questionable annuity advice

24:30 Unregistered “advisors” pushing 9–11% commission products

26:25 Why these products are sold: $35K+ commissions

28:30 How to spot fake fiduciaries—and what real ones disclose

29:23 Tom and Don still steaming about annuity predators

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