In this episode, I talk with Kale Zelden (  @thekalezelden  ) and Hank Kruse about the current state and future of the Catholic Church. We explore how Vatican II reshaped the Church, why many young Catholics are embracing orthodoxy, and what role tradition, mysticism, and “weirdness” might play in revitalizing the faith.We mention: Kale Zelden, Hank Cruz, John Paul II, Benedict XVI, Jonathan Pageau, John Vervaeke, Paul VanderKlay, Elizabeth Oldfield, Rod Dreher, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Augustine, Aquinas and more. Midwestuary - https://www.midwestuary.com/