Just a few weeks before the birth of her baby girl, Katy Perry talked with host Joe Levy about the long road to her new album, "Smile" (Capitol Records) — which was two years in the making, and chronicles of the ups and downs of her last three years. The California Gurl and "American Idol" judge opened up about the intensive, week-long therapy program that helped turn things around, and how she writes songs that embody what she calls a Phoenix from the ashes Scorpio archetype.

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