A first for Castaway as this week welcomes the show's first ever Dame! Colonel Dame Kelly Holmes is a double Olympic champion, honorary colonel in the army, author, mental health campaigner and podcast host of 'What Do I Do? Mental Health and Me.' Together Laura and Kelly discuss embracing vulnerability and failure, what the word feminism means to Kelly, proudly ageing ungracefully... and bathroom bagpipe sessions with Alistair Campbell.

Podcasts referenced in this conversation include:

What Do I Do? Mental Health and Me

Conversations of Inspiration

The Guilty Feminist

Happy Place

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

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