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Who are you beyond your job title? And what does it take to build success without losing yourself?
Recorded live over afternoon tea at our Repose Retreat at Salamander Middleburg, this bonus episode of the Leadership Tea Podcast brings Belinda and Shelby together with Zandrique Harrold, Vice President of Restaurant Operations at Thompson Hospitality.
Zandrique shares how an aspiring psychologist found her way into restaurant leadership, why she turned down two lateral offers before taking a different position, and what growing Milk & Honey has taught her about trusting her team. We also talk about what “enough” looks like when work and family both need you, and how to stay compassionate while protecting your peace.
And yes, we settle absolutely nothing about whether sugar belongs in grits.
Thanks to Thompson Restaurants for sponsoring High Tea at Repose! For more information on Thompson, check out their socials: https://www.instagram.com/milkandhoney_dmv/
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What if the opportunity everyone says you have to take isn't actually the right opportunity for you?
We've both faced that dilemma. The prestigious assignment. The impressive title. The lucrative offer. And the fear that saying no means closing a door that may never open again.
In this episode of Leadership Tea, Shelby and Belinda share candid stories about turning down seemingly golden career opportunities—and discovering that something even better was waiting on the other side.
One of us even had a mentor stop speaking to her after she declined a high-profile assignment!
We explore the pressure to follow traditional career paths, the importance of balancing ambition with personal priorities, and why you should be careful about whose career advice you follow.
Because here's what we've learned after decades of navigating leadership and career transitions: Your cachet doesn't expire. Your experience, reputation, relationships, and the work you've put in don't disappear just because you say no.
Sometimes the most powerful career decision you can make is to trust yourself enough to walk away.
In this conversation:
Here's the question we're leaving you with:
Have you ever turned down an opportunity that looked perfect on paper, only to discover later that saying no was the best decision you could have made?
We'd love to hear your story.
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What are you building today that your future self may need tomorrow?
In this episode, Shelby and Belinda sit down with diplomat, entrepreneur, and New College Perspective founder Jerica Lamar to talk about what she calls “building your island now”—creating skills, relationships, and opportunities before you need to make your next move.
Jerica shares practical advice on preparing for career pivots, finding and negotiating college scholarships, using LinkedIn before you have an impressive résumé, and navigating AI without giving up your ability to think critically. She also shares the three things that can keep you from getting boxed into a career: reflection, risk, and relationships.
Whether you’re preparing for college, building a career, or wondering what your own next chapter might look like, this conversation is packed with ideas you can put to work now.
A note on some of the acronyms mentioned:
EER = Employee Evaluation Report
D-9 = The Divine 9 Historically Black Greek Letter Fraternities & Sororities
As promised in the episode, here are some freebies:
LinkedIn Checklist + Content Plan for College Students: https://www.thenewcollegeperspective.com/linkedinchecklistcollegestudents
What to ask during a college tour: https://www.thenewcollegeperspective.com/questionstoaskyourcollegetourguide
Video on LinkedIn Mistakes to Avoid as a College Student: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2khp00Voc0
Website: www.thenewcollegeperspective.com
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Sometimes doing the right thing as a leader means disappointing someone you genuinely want to help. In this episode, Shelby and Belinda get candid about tough feedback, workplace politics, protecting your credibility, and knowing when (and when not) to use your influence on someone else’s behalf. Because the higher you go, the grayer the decisions get.
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He spent 37 years as a software engineer. Then a ruined painting changed everything.
In this bonus episode of Leadership Tea, Shelby and Belinda sit down with artist Erasto Curtis Matthews (@erastoarts) for a conversation that wasn't even supposed to happen. True to form for their 'Leading Unscripted' theme for this season. They met him by chance, minutes before recording their Season 6 premiere. Erasto shares how one destroyed canvas turned into a full-time art career, the mantra that's guided every scary decision since ("whenever something scares me, that's what I'm supposed to do next"), and his blunt advice for anyone building a legacy: get rid of fear, because fear usually gets you the exact opposite of what you want.
A quick, unscripted reminder that some of the best pivots in life start as mistakes.
🎨 Follow Erasto's work on Instagram: @erastoarts
🎙️ New episodes of Leadership Tea drop bi-weekly.
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Who taught you that talking about your wins is bragging?
LinkedIn strategist Portia Obeng has helped thousands of professionals and small business owners stop being the best-kept secret in their industry. She joins Belinda and Shelby for a candid, practical conversation about showing up online before you feel ready, and why playing small doesn't help anyone.
In this episode:
• The first move to make on LinkedIn when you're pivoting industries
• What Portia would do if you only had 30 minutes to fix your profile
• How to speak confidently about your expertise without sounding arrogant
• The profiles that make her hit "connect," and the ones that make her roll her eyes
• Why she's "allergic to quick chats," and what she says to people who ask for one
• Her North Star when the entrepreneurial journey gets hard
As former diplomats, Belinda and Shelby spent decades in a culture where your work was supposed to speak for itself. Portia makes the case that it won't, and that the people who need what you know are waiting to hear it from you.
Connect with Portia:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/portiaobeng/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@portia.o
Website: https://linktr.ee/portiaobeng
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What if the fear holding you back isn't even your own?
In the Season 6 premiere of Leadership Tea, Belinda and Shelby get personal about the voices that tell us we're not ready, and what happens when we choose to walk through the door anyway.
They revisit the unlikely story of how they became friends and professional partners, including the surprising reason Belinda almost never got to know Shelby. They talk about the career disappointment that pushed Shelby toward an opportunity she initially resisted, how Belinda encouraged her to take the leap, and the unexpected turns that ultimately shaped both of their careers.
They also reflect on building the Leadership Tea Podcast itself and everything they've had to learn along the way, from technology and editing to social media and video.
At its heart, this conversation is about leading unscripted: learning to distinguish your own fear from someone else's, letting go of ego, staying agile when the plan changes, and having the courage to take the next step even when you don't know exactly where it will lead.
In this episode, Belinda and Shelby talk about:
• How fear can keep us from opportunities we're actually ready for
• The difference between your own fear and someone else's fear
• What happens when someone else believes in you before you believe in yourself
• Career disappointment, ego, and learning to recognize an unexpected opportunity
• Why the right door isn't always the door you planned to walk through
• Faith, uncertainty, discomfort, and taking the first step
Timestamps
00:00 — Welcome to Season 6: Leading Unscripted
01:17 — Is fear keeping you in a box?
02:35 — How Vincent introduced Belinda and Shelby
03:44 — The advice that almost kept them apart
05:44 — When someone else's doubts become your own
06:55 — The story of power, water, and momentum
07:47 — Getting past the fear of video
08:17 — Is this fear yours or someone else's?
09:36 — When the dream job doesn't work out
10:06 — Why Shelby hesitated to join the Operations Center
12:19 — “You are built for this moment”
13:30 — Quieting the voices that sabotage your growth
14:00 — Walking through doors you didn't expect
14:43 — How Togo and Peru became the right places
15:29 — Why agility matters more than ego
15:41 — Learning to build a podcast unscripted
16:38 — Getting comfortable with YouTube and video
17:06 — Faith over fear
17:51 — Knowing when to shake off negativity
18:21 — There is no growth in comfort
18:34 — What does leading unscripted mean for you?
A few quotes to carry with you:
“Fear is blocking you from your blessings.”
“I never end up where I wanted to be, but I always end up where I'm supposed to be.”
“There’s no growth in comfort.”
What fear are you learning to move through right now?
Tell us in the comments. We'd love to hear your story.
And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or another audio platform, come join us on YouTube for Season 6. We're excited to bring you more conversations about leadership, culture, clarity, uncertainty, and what it really means to lead unscripted.
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We wrap the season by getting specific about what it means to be a good mentee, not just someone who wants access to a mentor. We share the habits that build real trust, the red flags that tell you to move on, and the practical ways to grow a “village” that supports your career and your life. We discuss issues such as:
• remembering you always have options beyond assigned pairings
• being in relationship with mentors beyond transactional asks
• reaching out before a crisis and making clear, focused asks
• leaning into virtual coffee chats in hybrid and remote work
If you're listening on audio, please also subscribe to our YouTube channel!
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You've dreamed about it. Maybe you've even Googled it. But what does moving abroad actually cost — financially, practically, and emotionally?
In Part 2 of our series with the State Department Federal Credit Union (SDFCU), Shelby and Belinda sit back down with Sam Salmon and Josh Barrett — two financial professionals who aren't just advising on international living, they're currently doing it. From hidden garbage taxes in Spain to bills buried in junk mail in Belgium, this conversation gets into the real details that most people don't think about until they're already on the plane.
We cover banking across borders, credit strategy, U.S. tax obligations that follow you everywhere, and what to do in the 12-18 months before you make the move. If you've ever seriously considered planting roots somewhere new, this one's for you.
Here are a few acronyms that were used in this episode:
Missed Part 1? We kicked off this series talking about raising money-smart kids — find it wherever you're listening now.
Learn more about SDFCU's international services: https://sdfcu.org/
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How do you raise children who understand the value of money in a world where almost every payment is digital?
In this episode of Leadership Tea, Shelby Smith-Wilson and Belinda Jackson welcome back financial experts Sam Salmon and Josh Barrett from the State Department Federal Credit Union to discuss practical strategies for raising financially confident kids.
Together, they explore allowances, saving, budgeting, first jobs, spending habits, and how parents can build healthy financial mindsets through consistent conversations, not fear or shame.
Whether you're raising young children or preparing teenagers for adulthood, this conversation offers practical ideas that leaders can apply both at home and at work.
In this episode:
• The biggest mistake parents make when teaching kids about money
• Why communication matters more than the size of an allowance
• Helping children understand needs versus wants
• Teaching financial responsibility in a cashless world
• Preparing teens for their first paycheck
• Why it's never too late to build better money habits
Part 1 of a two-part series with the State Department Federal Credit Union.
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From the publisher's feed
On Leadership Tea, we talk about what it takes to reach the executive level, and how to thrive when you get there. Powerful leaders share their journeys, insights, and triumphs in conversations…
Join us every other Wednesday to be inspired by the unvarnished stories of amazing executives who know what it's like to be "the only" at the table and who have succeeded regardless. They have proven leadership experience in their respective fields, from international affairs to the private sector to academia, and want to help others create their own success stories.
Leadership Tea is produced by Grounded & Global Advisory, LLC, a leadership consultancy firm. Go to https://www.groundedandglobal.com/ for more information about how to strategize and develop your leadership footprint.

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