I’ve known Rodney Hide for a long time; through his career in politics and beyond.

I’ve seen changes in his life, both personal and professional. He is still making adjustments, because he’s a man who pursues philosophy and knowledge, and isn’t afraid of making corrections.

It’s been over a year since we did a podcast.

Our pre interview chat led to a story that then opened a wide ranging discussion.

We included politics and politicians, A.I.,the economy, Anzac relevance, the Middle East and Trump.

And, of course, at the end of it all, The Mailroom with Mrs Producer.

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