In this conversation, Leo Bortolon shares his journey from Brazil to North Dakota, discussing his extensive background in agriculture, particularly in soil fertility and sustainable farming practices. He highlights his research on cover crops, biostimulants, and the importance of adapting agricultural practices to local conditions. Leo emphasizes the need for better data and legislation to support farmers in adopting innovative practices and improving soil health. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of agricultural trials, the role of biological products, and the importance of research in understanding soil health and crop performance. They discuss the challenges faced in product development, the need for collaboration between farmers and researchers, and the significance of transparency in agricultural practices. The dialogue emphasizes the necessity for critical evaluation of biological products and the importance of building a solid database to support farmers in making informed decisions.