This week I spoke with longtime activist and author Dean Spade about the complexities of relationships and the challenges we face in a society shaped by disposability culture. We discussed the fear of being wrong in public and of conflict and feedback. He spoke about why self-help often falls short in addressing systemic issues and shared some insights from his latest book, Love in a F*cked Up World, which offers practical advice on navigating personal growth and connection in a world that often feels isolating and disconnected. I loved both the book and this conversation. Let us know if you listen!

Show notes:

- Dean's books | podcast | IG: @spade.dean

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic

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Episode 426 - Queering in Friendships: Rae McDaniel, Sex Therapist & Author of Gender Magic, Returns

This week, I talked to interior designer Cooper Osinski. He shared what makes a space feel personal, how he balances his style with client work, and how he developed his taste and style while navigating trends. We also discussed his intentional approach to growing an online presence on YouTube and how he stays thoughtful and constructive when offering design commentary. Cooper was as warm and inviting as the spaces he creates, and he offered heaps of practical, accessible tips—including small design fixes that make a big impact. Whether you're deep into design or just curious, he makes the world of interiors feel both approachable and fun. Let us know if you listen.

Show notes:

- Find Cooper on the Web | Instagram | YouTube

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic

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Episode 425 - Mindful Space Design: Anjie Cho Returns

This week, I talk to business strategist Abbi Miller about navigating pivots in both personal and professional life. Abbi was on the podcast five years ago, and her perspective on time management, which she calls Time Pessimism, is a concept I’ve found helpful ever since. Since then, much has changed for her both personally and collectively (including becoming a mom). In this episode, we catch up on everything she’s learned since then, including how to work with the muse when it strikes and how she sets up systems to support that flow. We also discuss how to deal with cynicism and find ambition again, and her strategies for effective quarterly goal-setting. Plus, Abbi gets me to open up about some of my own career changes and how I’ve been navigating them within my life. And you can hear me talk about it more on her show, where she had me on as a guest too.

Show notes:

- Abbi's Workwomb Instagram | Podcast

- Free 30-min consult with Abbi to chat about working together

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic

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In Abbi's previous episode, we covered her pivot from full-time work to freelancing, navigating burnout, and the importance of support in both business and personal life.

This week, I talk to Erin Claire Jones, one of the world’s leading experts in Human Design. She talks about her journey from skeptically discovering it at a party to now writing a book (How Do You Choose) about how we can use our design to make better decisions in relationships and career. Erin also shares how these principles have transformed her life, and we explore how they can be used by anyone, even those just beginning to learn about the system.

I first discovered her grounded approach to Human Design when I was gifted a personalized reading by her in 2017. What she shared was so useful to me, it led me to host 2 live podcast episodes with her as the guest. Since then, her work has been featured in Forbes, Elle, Vogue, and Nylon, and she's worked with thousands of people in over 160 countries. Erin and I reflect on how the concepts in her new book connect to the way we navigate our lives, as well as how Human Design can be used as a tool for self-awareness, overcoming obstacles, and better communication for more harmonious relationships with others.

Show notes:

- Find Erin Claire on IG: @erinclairejones | @humandesignblueprint

- Erin's book: How Do You Choose?

- Look up your design here | code LETITOUT for a discount on your guide

- Study human design with Erin here

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic

If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:

Episode 249: Habits, growth, doing our best, human design and love with Erin Claire LIVE

Episode 242: Human Design, family, connection, parenting with Jenna Zoë

LA-based artist Christopher DeLoach and I talked about his path from class clown to intrepid traveler—walking the Appalachian Trail—to becoming an artist and creating the iconic bumper stickers you know and love. He shares a series of surreal encounters while hitchhiking, including rides with enigmatic characters that challenged his worldview. Our conversation spans time—from his childhood in NYC to adventures in his early 20s and how both continue to shape him today. We talked about identity, American culture, his painting process, collecting ideas, funding and sustaining a career in LA, becoming known for something, doubt, belief, and even death. It’s a humorous and earnest conversation that I really loved—let us know if you listen!

Show notes:

- Find Christopher on the Web | Instagram -The bumper sticker story we talk about

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Zine shop is here! - My Creative Clinic

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Episode 393: Kismet Color with Artist Kimmy Quillin: Painting, Living in NYC as an Artist, and Highs and Lows of Creating

This is the second half of my conversation with my friend Blu Most, an artist who has worked in food styling, creative direction, and event design. We get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. If you missed part 1 last week, we talked about embracing creative cycles, the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity.

Show notes:

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Find Blu on the Web | Instagram

- Ozma of California code: Katie15 for 15% off

- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot!

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

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Episode 353: Riding Waves: Surfing, Design, and Change with Heidi Baker, Founder of Ozma of California

In this first part of my conversation with the brilliant and wildly creative Blu Most, we dive into the life of a self-proclaimed “ideas person” and explore what it means to be a jack-of-all-trades. Blu shares her experience through art, food styling, creative direction, and event design—embracing creative cycles and navigating the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment. We also get into stepping away from Instagram, marketing to niche communities, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity. Stay tuned for Part 2, where we get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, shifting towards intimate gatherings, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all.

Show notes:

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- The reel we were talking about

- Find Blu on the Web | Instagram

- Ozma of California code: Katie15 for 15% off

- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot!

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:

Episode 353: Riding Waves: Surfing, Design, and Change with Heidi Baker, Founder of Ozma of California

"What's your greatest lesson on romantic relationships?" is a question I've asked in most every episode. This week, with the help of a few favorite guests, I attempt to answer it. It's the first time in 12 years that I've ever done a brief episode... brevity is not my strong suit so don't get used to it... but I hope you like it! It features: Kristin Hanggi, Cody Cook-Parrott, Robyn Kanner, Rachelle Robinett, Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, Mari Andrew, Jon Marro, Neada Deters, and Yoke Lore. Let me know if you listen : )

Show Notes:

- Breakups Kits !!  + +  physical zine version! a la cart here or come to the relaunch event in LA EVENT (!!!) at NOTO  on 2/27! RSVP here.

- My Substack- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

In honor of Valentine’s Day it’s an episode about what I know best: romantic love… just kidding it’s about breakups! It's a variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with  founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist at Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett,  author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator Mari Andrew, Yoke Lore, and more ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was actually  optimistic and even dare I say funny? Then I react to hearing their advice 5 years later, talk about if I took it and what has happened since…

Show Notes:

- Breakups Kits !!  + + the physical zine! I just printed more copies of it and you can get one a la carte here or come to the relaunch event in LA EVENT (!!!) at NOTO  on 2/27! RSVP here.

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

I thought it would be fun to do a year-in-review of the music of 2024 with my friend James McCrae. Neither of us are music experts, but we’re constantly sharing music with each other. James first came on the show in 2020, when we did a similar review of the music from that wild quarantine year when artists weren’t touring and we all missed live shows. Fast forward to 2024, and we chat about what we've noticed over the last five years, including the changes in the music industry, trends we've seen, and of course, what we’ve had on repeat.

James, a Bob Dylan super-fan, talks about his evolving tastes, new genres, and how pop and hyperpop have influenced his music choices. He also shares his insights on the current music scene and the role of streaming, social media, and live performances.

James is an author, poet, artist, and founder of Sunflower Club, a global community dedicated to conscious creativity. He’s the author of several books, including The Art of You, which we discussed last year.

Show notes:

- My Substack

- IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- James: Web | Instagram | new book The Art of You

• Our 2024 episode after his latest book came out - James' other books here & here

- Bandsplain  & Yasi Salek's Go Fund Me

- Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here

- My Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

- Music mentioned:

• Charli xcx
• Olivia Rodrigo - so american
• Chappell Roan - Casual
• Sabrina Carpenter - Taste
• Beyoncé - Bodyguard
• Gracie Abrams - I Love You, I'm Sorry
• Blondshell - Kiss City
• Yo La Tengo - Before We Run 
• Adrianne Lenker - Big Thief's Vampire Empire
• Wishy - Spinning
• Wet Leg - Wet Dream
• MJ Lenderman - Wristwatch
• Brennan Wedl - I Wanna Be Your TV
• Waxahatchee - 3 Sisters

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Episode 321: 2020 Music with James McCrae