This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling, introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring techniques like card reading, palmistry, dream interpretation, and tea leaf and coffee reading, many of which were created or popularized by the Roma. We discussed their distinct cultural upbringings—Paulina’s roots in a traditional Romani community and Jezmina's mixed heritage—and how they each work with people today. And at the end they each pulled a card that's meant to be a message of anyone who listens.

Show notes:

- Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack 

- Find Jez @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic

- Their book | podcast

- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session 

- Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! 

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

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Lenea Sims epsisode here please 

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**This is part two of last week’s conversation with Dr. Patti, which was recorded prior to the devastating fires in LA. A list of resources is in the show notes below.**

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets.

If you haven’t listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us.

Show notes:

- Good comprehensive list of how to help LA by my friend Kate: here

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack 

- Find Dr. Patti on the Web | Instagram

- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session 

- Year of the snake (by Anjie) which I was telling you about at the end

- Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! 

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

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Dr. Patti's earlier episodes: 362 and 345

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets.

I’m splitting this into two parts so come back next week for more. And in the meantime, if you haven’t listened to our earlier conversations, they covered gentle naturopathic medicine, wellness vs. enjoying your life, simple quick eating, how loneliness impacts physical health, cocooning, and navigating change while staying present with what is in front of us.

Show notes:

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack 

- Find Dr. Patti on the Web | Instagram

- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session

- Resolutions Reframe journaling workshop

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! 

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:

Dr. Patti's earlier episodes: 362 and 345

This week I spoke to Ashley Stahl, a counterterrorism professional turned international bestselling author and Forbes contributor. Not only is Ashley a TEDx speaker herself, she's now a highly sought-after TEDx speechwriter and CEO of her agency Wise Whisper, which helps people craft impactful talks and get booked on major stages. Ashley opens up about navigating the liminal spaces of life, where clarity is elusive, and how discipline plays a crucial role in finding your next elegant idea. Together, we discuss creative pivots, the value of storytelling, and embracing discomfort as a path to growth.

Show notes:

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack 

- Vent Method: visit ventmethod.com to learn more & book a session

- Find Ashley on IG: @ashleystahl | Wise Whisper Agency

- NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions!

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! 

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

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Episode 358: High Intention, Low Attachment with Ashley Stahl

In this special year-in-review mailbag episode, producer Ella and I look back on favorite standout episodes from 2024, our process of working together, and what's ahead for Let It Out in the coming year. We answer a few questions about walking, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and our collaborative process with writing and editing newsletters and the truth of how our ideas take shape. Let us know if you listen!

Show notes:

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack 
--my episode on maddie's youtube where she interviews me November 2024:
 part 1 and part 2 

- Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT

- Speechify: get 60% off their premium plan with my link

- NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... let me know if you have any questions!

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! 

- COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming up: sign up for the waitlist

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Mailbag episode with editor Briana Bane 

It's just me this week, delivering a dispatch that feels more like a voice note to a friend than a typical interview. I centered this around how the so-called "irony epidemic" has shaped the way I work, write, and share my projects in a culture that often resists earnestness. I reflect on the push/pull between sincerity and detachment, the ways we seek validation both online and offline, and how group chats, community, and connection factor into it all. Plus, why being “goo prone” might just be the most human thing of all.

Show notes:

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack

- Magic Mind: get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code: LETITOUT

- Submit a  question for our q&a episode: write them here OR  record here and we’ll play it on the episode! 

Announcements: 

- NOW (!!) Holiday workshops! : ) very affordable self study workshops... Let me know if you have any questions!

- Zine shop is here! or become a paid Substack member and I'll mail you a copy of Pivot! 

COMING 2025- FRESH NEW (!!) In Process: Experimental Creative Group semester coming 2025: sign up for the waitlist

Sources Mentioned : 

-Ethel Cain's Tumblr post  
-Article: The Internet's Superiority Complex
-Video essay: "Nobody Takes Anything Seriously Anymore" 
-Video essay: "The Irony Epidemic: why people are so mean right now" 
-Podcast episode:  "Is Online Superiority & The Irony Epidemic Rotting Our Brains? by The Polyester Podcast 
-Nada Alic's episode (part 1 & part 2) | her book, Bad Thoughts

Soundbite clips: 
-Stay by Lisa Loeb
-Reality Bites Clip 
-Almost Famous Clip 

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Episode 462: Micro-Hysterical Moments: Amanda Chantal Bacon on shame, aging, dating, the myth of balance & more!

This week I spoke to chef, recipe developer, writer and food stylist Chloe Walsh, also known as Chloe Cooks. A Brit based out of Los Angeles, she hosts pop-ups, writes her incredible Substack (Anchovies & Soup), swims, and is known for her potato recipe and so much more. In addition to loving her food, I love her. I’m lucky enough to get to call her a friend and neighbor. She had me over a couple weeks ago, made us lunch, and we talked for hours about everything from her favorite places to go in LA, to meals to cook when alone, food culture as it relates to bodies, chronic illness, writing, design, growing her audience, managing her energy, and following her intuition in the kitchen. I loved every second of this one and I hope you do too!

Show notes:

- Get Magic Mind at 50% off with the Black Friday offer, available only through my link until December 6th: https://magicmind.com/liobf

- Find Chloe on  IG | Substack

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack

- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy

- Kate's Substack, Bite Sized

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Episode 328: effortless takes effort, connection & cooking, embracing our humanness + more with Julia Turshen

This week I spoke to Moon Juice founder and CEO Amanda Chantal Bacon. Amanda, as it says in the PR email I received, “has a captivating personal story that led her to create her company,” but we barely touched on that in this conversation. Instead we had a candid conversation that began with talking about shame and a book (All Fours). And spanned to finding love later, aging, mourning past life phases, intergenerational friendship, and the myth of balance. I found this to be a very comforting conversation from start to finish; she was so wise and easygoing that I left feeling like I'd just hung up with a good friend.

Despite the fact that I’ve been a fan of her products for over a decade, use her face wash daily, and credit her Beauty Pills for keeping my acne in check—we didn’t even talk about her her company origin story, or even one of her specific products. Next time. Let us know what you think eavesdropping.

Show notes:

- Find Amanda on Instagram

- Shop Moon Juice & use code LETITOUT for 15% off sitewide!

- Book: All Fours by Miranda July

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack

- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy

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Episode 212: Lacy Phillips of Free & Native on Situational Magnetism, Subconscious Beliefs, Body Image, Style, Authenticity + much more

This is the second half of my conversation with one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. 

In Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the journal prompts she uses daily, and questions from a previous guest. 

If you missed Part 1 last week, we talked about about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process. 

Show notes:

- Find Melissa  on Instagram

- Her books: So Sad Today, Milk Fed, The Pisces, Superdoom,  Last Sext & her newest, Death Valley

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack

- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy

- The Self-Compassion workbook Melissa mentions

- Speechify (the text-to-speech app I use to edit my writing)

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Episode 407: Bad Thoughts with Nada Alic (part 2 of 2)

Episode 308: Writing, Feelings & Friendship with Leah Clancy