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In this episode, we interview Jared Byas, author and co-host of the hit podcast The Bible for Normal People. We discuss his new book Love Matters More, available now wherever books are sold. It's a lively discussion about love and truth, and how those concepts are often abused by religious people under the guise of "telling the truth in love."

The beer featured in this episode is from Central Waters Brewing Company.

Content note: this episode contains some mild profanity.

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