Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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  • Punk pt.2

    In this episode we continue our trio of episodes on Punk by examining some crucial mid-70s proto-Punk antecedents. Via the lean funkiness of Dr Feelgood Jeremy and Tim explore the interesting British formation of pub rock, with its R’n’B roots and distinct danceability. This leads to a discussion on the slipperiness of Rock’n’Roll as a term and its tensions with ‘rock’ proper. We also hear an early influence on Post-Punk and meet the influential Stiff Records at its foundation.
    In the second half of the show we make a second encounter on the show with the Ramones, and ask: what were they really up to? Authenticity, performance, historiography and hagiography all come under the microscope as we lead to the first definitively British Punk record: New Rose by The Damned.
    Join us next time for Blondie and the Sex Pistols.
    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.



    Tracklist:
    Dr Feelgood - She Does it Right
    Dr Feelgood - Keep it Outta Sight
    Nick Lowe - So It Goes
    The Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
    The Saints - (I’m) Stranded
    The Damned - New Rose

    58 min
  • LITM Extra - What We're Listening To, March '24 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole thing and a huge number of other conversations, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    In this patrons episode Jem and Tim once again share what’s been on their turntables recently. We hear two tracks - one contemporary and one not - from the UK Asian Underground, along with a consideration of the cosmopolitan aesthetic of artists like Bally Sagoo and Nitin Sawhney. Tim reflects on trips to the WOMAD festival and digs into trip hop while Jem shares a powerful Qawwali cut. Elsewhere we hear Swedish afrobeat, extremely psychedelic roots reggae, free love, a compilation for Gaza, Messages from the Stars and more…



    Tracklist:

    Nitin Sawhney - Charu Keshi Rain
    Nora Dean - Angie La La
    Bally Sagoo - Noorie
    Morelo - Promise (from ‘For Gaza’ comp by Planet Turbo Records)
    The RAH Band - Messages from the Stars
    Orgōne - Strike
    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Shamas-Ud-Doha, Badar-Ud-Doja
    Olumo Soundz - Sunday Jump
    June Jazzin - Shine Your Brightest Light


    Books:

    Sanjay Sharma, John Hutnyk, Ashwani Sharma (Eds) - Dis-Orienting Rhythms: The Politics of the New Asian Dance Music 

    9 min
  • New York City 1977: Welcome to Series 6. Punk pt.1

    Welcome to Series 6 of Love is the Message! We hope you enjoyed the series of conversations with writers and academics that comprised Series 5, but now we are returning to our usual format to examine a watershed year: 1977. 


    In this first episode we are unpacking Punk. What is it? A musical style, a subgenre of rock, a fashion sensibility, an attitude, a structure of feeling? In the first of three shows on Punk, Jeremy and Tim unfurl a general genealogy of the term as we build towards the release of Anarchy in the UK in two episodes’ time. They discuss where the term came from and how it was codified; the importance punk placed on realness and spontaneity; and contrast Punk’s nostalgic and avant garde modes. 


    Tim and Jeremy make reference to three bands not immediately thought of as Punk - The Seeds, The MC5 and The Stooges - to uncover what musical work was taking place in the late 60s and early 70s that could be viewed as proto-punk, and use these bands to show the problems of rock historiography in recounting the history of Punk. And, this being LITM, we of course spend some time untangling the Punk vs Disco dichotomy. 


    We hope you’ll join us as we continue our long march through the 1970s and beyond!

    Become a patron at patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.


    Tracklist:

    The Seeds - Pushin’ Too Hard
    The MC5 - Kick Out the Jams
    The Stooges - Funhouse

    57 min
  • LITM Extra - Killer Queens: Glam pt.3 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole thing and a lot more besides, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this patrons’ episode we conclude our trio of episodes on Glam Rock.


    Tim and Jeremy pick up where they left off with a walk on the wild side. This leads to a discussion of the relationship between Lou Reed, Bowie and Iggy Pop in the early 70s. They discuss the undisputed glam anthem Cum on Feel the Noize from Birmingham’s finest Slade, replete with its football terrace chant and fist-pumping energy. And on the mellower side, explore the idea of glam as torch song, with entries from international treasure Elton John and a return to the show for Roxy Music.


    Jeremy and Tim conclude the episode with an acceptance of the might of Queen and a brief scintilla of postmodernism - much more of that to follow.


    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.


    Tracklist:

    Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side

    David Bowie - Moonage Daydream

    Slade - Cum On Feel The Noize

    Suzi Quatro - Glycerine Queen

    Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

    Roxy Music - In Every Dream Home a Heartache

    Queen - Killer Queen

    4 min
  • LITM Extra - Screwed-Up Eyes and Screwed-Down Hairdo: Glam pt.2 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole show, and a whole lot more besides, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod to sign up.


    In this patrons’ episode we move into the second of three episodes on Glam. The third part of this trilogy will be dropping in your feed sooner than our normal schedule so hold tight for that.

    Tim and Jeremy discuss that big beast of British rock, Roxy Music. They consider Brian Ferry’s cultivation of a White British vocal style, the effects of art college on this and so many other contemporaneous UK bands, Ferry’s eventual styling as ‘Frank Sinatra in quotation marks’, and the emergence from within Roxy of one of the most influential producers of the Twentieth Century - Brian Eno.

    Also in the episode the guys go deep on Ziggy Stardust and unpack the desire of so many 70s musicians to just be taken seriously. Plus, the shadow of Dylan, Cornelius Cardew, and more Marc Bolan. 

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.


    Tracklist:

    Roxy Music - Re-Make/Re-Model

    Roxy Music - Virginia Plain

    David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

    T.Rex - Children Of The Revolution

    6 min
  • 'Divine Decadence Darling!': The 70s with Simon Reynolds

    In this episode Jeremy and Tim are joined by writer, historian, and friend of the show Simon Reynolds to discuss British musical trends of the 1970s and his life as a music journalist. Simon is arguably the most important music critic writing today, having penned seminal books on post-punk, electronic dance music, feminist rock and much more. In this interview he mostly talks about his most recent book, ‘Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and Its Legacy, from the Seventies to the Twenty-First Century’, sharing stories from his childhood interest in the decadent world of Glam.


    The three discuss how so many artists came to aestheticise a rejection of suburbia, the purply gauze of Top of the Pops, and thinking the Situationists were a band. They unpick how Punk is imagined and historicised versus how it was experienced, how Simon came to reappraise the 60s against a hostile critical culture, and consider the role of the music press historically and today.


    For patrons, our extended edition also includes a discussion around Simon’s 2011 book ‘Retromania: Pop Culture’s Addiction to its Own Past’. Tim, Jeremy and Simon recount the particular conjuncture from which the book arose, tease out its key theses, and apply those to contemporary music culture.


    Simon Reynolds is the author of ‘Blissed Out: The Raptures of Rock’, ‘The Sex Revolts: Gender, Rebellion and Rock 'N' Roll’ with Joy Press, ‘Energy Flash: A Journey Through Rave Music and Dance Culture’, ‘Rip It Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978–1984’, ‘Bring The Noise: 20 Years of Writing About Hip Rock and Hip-Hop’, ‘Retromania: Pop Culture's Addiction to Its Own Past’ and ‘Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and Its Legacy, from the Seventies to the Twenty-First Century’. His next book, ‘Futuromania: Electronic Dreams from Moroder to Migos’ is forthcoming.


    Tracklist:

    Scott Joplin - The Entertainer
    Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Plaistow Patricia
    The Rezillos - Top Of The Pops
    The Specials - Ghost Town

    Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love

    56 min
  • [UNLOCKED] The Great Kosmische Musik: Krautrock

    UNLOCKED - We've made public this previously patrons-only episode following the death of Can singer Damo Suzuki. If you'd like to become a patron, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    W do you call it? Krautrock, space rock, the Great Komische Music? It’s all German to me. In a little under two hours the guys cover the history of post-WW2 Germany (East and West), anti-Communist geopolitics, what you want to hear when you’re tripping, Pop Art, post-rock and playfulness, all in reference to the music of Can, NEU!, Ash Ra Tempel and more.

    We hear about the characteristics of the German counterculture from which many of these players came, the various tendencies of revolutionary European socialism, the Green Party, and the problems of De-Nazification. We consider the avant-garde compositions of Karlheinz Stockhausen, the impact of American acid rock, Ancient Egypt, and the many ways James Brown’s funk filtered into the motor rhythms of Dusseldorf 1971. More than anything, we survey a formidable body of work that is at once mesmeric and danceable - both things we like here at Love is the Message!

    Produced by Matt Huxley.

    Books:
    Julian Cope - Krautrock Sampler: One Head’s Guide  to the Great Kosmische Musik
    David Stubbs - Future Days: Krautrock and the Building of Modern Germany

    Tracklist:
    Ash Ra Tempel & Timothy Leary - Timeship
    Karlheinz Stockhausen - Spiral (Realization A)
    Amon Duul ii - Yeti (Improvisation)
    Ash Ra Tempel - Amboss
    Kraftwerk - Stratovarius
    Tangerine Dream - Genesis
    Tangerine Dream - Flute Organ Piece
    Can - Halleluwah
    NEU! - Hallogallo
    Can - Moonshake
    Kraftwerk - Autobahn
    Harmonia & Eno '76 - Atmosphere
    Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express

    1 hr 47 min
  • LITM Extra - School's Out! Glam Rock pt.1

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole thing, plus dozens of hours more discussion and conversation, head to patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this patrons’ episode we continue our look at musical currents of the 1970s by pulling on our platform boots, pasting on some eyeliner and getting ready for Glam Rock. In the first of two episodes, Tim and Jeremy excavate the pre-history of this strange trans-Atlantic phenomenon, which expresses both fascinating cultural insights and some pretty bad music (to our ears).

    Tim and Jeremy discuss the concept of glamour itself, the glamorous side of Hippy culture, and clothing and makeup as forms of self-expression. They also get stuck into 60s Garage Rock, focusing on The Stooges and The Velvet Underground, to consider ideas of decadence, masculinity, mass culture, Warhol and more, before - via a detour through the singular artistry of David Bowie - teeing up two recognisable faces of early Glam: Marc Bolan and Alice Cooper.
    Next episode we’ll be continuing on to Roxy Music, the New York Dolls, later Bowie, Slade, and the legacy of this strange musical force.
    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.

    Tracklist:

    The Pleasure Seekers - What a Way to Die
    The Velvet Underground - Venus in Furs
    The Stooges - TV Eye
    Alice Cooper - I’m Eighteen
    David Bowie - The Man Who Sold The World
    Alice Cooper - School’s Out
    T. Rex - Hot Love

    Books:

    Philip Auslander - Performing Glam Rock: Gender and Theatricality in Popular Music
    Simon Reynolds Book - Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and Its Legacy, from the Seventies to the Twenty-First Century
    Colin Campbell - The Romantic Ethic and the Spirit of Modern Consumerism

    9 min
  • 'Fear City': Kim Phillips-Fein on the NYC Fiscal Crisis

    To hear an extended version of this conversation, become a patron at Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this episode Jeremy and Tim are joined by historian and New Yorker Kim Phillips-Fein to discuss a crucial event in the Love is the Message story: the 1975 New York City fiscal crisis. Kim’s book ‘Fear City: New York’s Fiscal Crisis and the Rise of Austerity Politics’ is widely regarded as the definitive text on the matter, so she was the perfect person to talk to, and she brought some great music recommendations to boot.


    The three discuss both the long- and short-term backdrop to the crisis, charting how the city’s unique social democratic municipal system of rent controls, hospitals and education changed across the twentieth century, before examining how the centre of international capital came extremely close to bankruptcy. Kim explains the financial mechanisms which animated the crisis and the political choices that precipitated it. She elucidates President Ford’s predicament during the crisis, the effects of ‘white flight’, and reminds us that New York was itself an industrial city rapidly de-industrialising. 


    This being Love is the Message, naturally we also hear about the extraordinary cultural creativity of the time and examine its material causes, including changing democraphics and the transformation of Soho. Finally, Tim Jeremy and Kim consider what happened next, and how the fiscal crisis has been historicised to serve a particular ideology.


    Kim Phillips-Fein is the Gardiner-Kenneth T. Jackson Professor of History at Columbia University. Her book ‘Fear City: New York’s Fiscal Crisis and the Rise of Austerity Politics' was named a finalist for the 2018 Pulitzer Prize for History. She is also the author of ‘Invisible Hands: The Making of the Conservative Movement from the New Deal to Reagan’.


    Tracklist:

    Television - Venus

    The Dils - Class War

    The Rolling Stones - Shattered

    Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - The Message

    1 hr 10 min
  • LITM Extra - WWLT, Dec '23 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole show, plus much more, head to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    On this festive edition of What We’re Listening To, Jeremy and Tim share selections from their turntables alongside thoughts on religion, atheism, death - and Blondie. We hear psychedelic jazz from north India and northern England, a brace of uplifting Gospel anthems from Pastor T.L Barrett, and some free-wheeling spiritual jazz from the Bronx via Puerto Rico. A smattering of seasonal song is dispersed throughout the selections, and with an eye on the horrors of the last two months in the Middle East, an uplifting call for peace to sign off on.

    We will be taking a short break for Christmas and New Year but will be back in mid-January with more LITM. Tune in, turn on, get down…


    Produced by Matt Huxley.

    Tracklist:

    Manish Pingle - Raga Puriya Kalyan

    Erobique (ft. Florence Adooni) - Mam Tola
    Matthew Halsall - An Ever Changing View
    Pastor T.L. Barrett And The Youth For Christ Choir - I Shall Wear a Crown
    Pastor T.L. Barrett And The Youth For Christ Choir - Jingle Bells
    Blondie - Yuletide Throwdown
    Antonio Ocasio ft. Nina Hadzi Antich - That Something
    Alfredo Linares - La Musica Por Dentro (Remixed by Jose Parla & Phenomenal Handclap Band)
    Joseph Macwan - Climb That Mountain (3AM Mix)
    Mike Anthony - Why Can't We Live Together

    8 min

About Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers.

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