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Carl Zha sits down with French entrepreneur/China commentator Arnaud Bertrand to dissect French President Emmanuel Macron's recent visit to China. They explore the stated goals, the warm reception from Chinese leaders, the underwhelming outcomes, and Macron's controversial post-trip rhetoric on tariffs. The conversation dives into France-China relations, Europe's competitiveness challenges, ideological shifts in French politics, the Ukraine crisis, Taiwan tensions, and the future of the EU project. Arnaud shares insights from his long-term residency in China and his Twitter commentary.

Guest: Arnaud Bertrand

Follow him on Twitter/X: @RnaudBertrand

Substack: arnaudbertrand.substack.com

Recent book: Democracy in China (mentioned in the episode)

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