The Wild Minds Podcast

Making Nature a Right in Education with Suzanne Welch


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My guest today is Suzanne Welch, Education Partnership Manager at the RSPB, the UK’s largest nature conservation charity with over a million members, and in this episode she explores what it would mean to make nature a right in education and why it’s time to rethink the purpose.

Suzanne has spent decades in outdoor learning - from taking inner-city children to the Thames foreshore, where subjects like science, history and geography came alive, to now convening national partnerships and influencing education policy. Her work is driven by a vision that every child should have access to high-quality learning in, with and for nature.

In this episode Suzanne Welch...

  • Challenges the outdated knowledge-based model and invites a shift toward enquiry and relational learning.
  • Reflects on her early work taking inner-city children to the River Thames and witnessing their transformation outdoors.
  • Emphasises joy, curiosity and presence as the foundations of meaningful learning.
  • Highlights how outdoor experiences naturally connect subjects like science, history, art and geography.
  • Argues that learning shouldn’t be siloed because our minds don’t operate in compartments.
  • Points to the early years sector as an example of where outdoor and child-led learning already works well.
  • Questions about why these principles fade as children move through the education system.
  • Explains how assessment and measurement culture have narrowed what counts as learning.
  • Calls for systemic rather than incremental change and a national conversation about the true purpose of education.
  • Advocates for a statutory right for every child to learn in with and for nature.
  • Notes that equitable access currently depends on postcode school leadership and teacher enthusiasm.
  • Ends with a simple invitation start with one outdoor lesson listen to young people and let hope lead change.

Shownotes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/making-nature-a-right-in-education-suzanne-welch/

Music by Geoff Robbwww.geoffrobb.com 

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