Greg Berman, the distinguished fellow of practice at the Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation, co-editor of Vital City, City & State columnist, former executive director of the Center for Court Innovation, and the co-author of Gradual: The Case for Incremental Change in a Radical Age (Oxford University Press, 2023), and Aubrey Fox, executive director of the New York City Criminal Justice Agency and the co-author of Gradual: The Case for Incremental Change in a Radical Age (Oxford University Press, 2023), make the case for incremental change, drawing on their many years of criminal justice reform advocacy.