Our guest today is rock star mum-of-six Jana Pittman, who after competing in both the summer and winter olympics decided to study to be an obstetrician. Jules and Mel now feel lazy for streaming and sipping wine every evening. She opens up about the days when she just can't, how she manages those days and why mother's need to talk more about how hard it is. While Jules' partner Cam has a bad case of man flu, and there's not a lot of sympathy coming his way.

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