02:40 - Building and hacking systems 

09:35 - The birth of Botto 

14:10 - The importance of the DAO 

18:30 - The evolution of Botto in the face of new AI development 

20:40 - Botto's persona and longevity 

25:30 - Styles, themes and periods 

27:53 - The economy of Botto, rewards and incentives 

37:45 - The genesis of P5.Botto 

41:15 - How the p5.Botto system works 

47:50 - The final 22 algorithms 

56:43 - Long term goals and possible futures 

57:48 - The tension and benefits between autonomy and governance 

01:00:39 - How much of Botto's personality comes through 

01:03:29 - How Mario sees things developing 

01:07:10 - The importance of competition