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This episode discusses sexual abuse, including childhood sexual abuse, trauma memory, shame and the effects of abuse on sex and relationships. Please listen in a way that prioritises care of yourself
EPISODE SUMMARYHow do you name possible sexual abuse without turning therapy into another experience in which something is being done to the client?
In this episode, Dr Natalie Stott speaks with counselling psychologist and EMDR trained Dr Kelly Savery about working with sexual abuse and sexual trauma. They explore the language of victimhood and survival, the care required around first disclosures and what to do when a client has not named what happened. Kelly offers ways to raise concerns tentatively while leaving control with the client.
The conversation also explores fragmented trauma memory. Do clients need a clear, chronological account before therapy can help? Kelly explains why therapists can work with present-day shame, disgust and bodily responses without trying to excavate a complete narrative.
The episode closes with the impact of this work on clinicians. Kelly discusses supervision, peer connection, caseload management and her approach to staying present without visualising traumatic material.
Timestamps
Dr Kelly Savery is a counselling psychologist, EMDR-accredited practitioner and CAT therapist. She is the founder of Taproot Psychology and specialises in supporting adults affected by sexual abuse and sexual trauma.
Dr Kelly website: https://www.drkelly.uk/
Taproot Psychology: https://www.taprootpsychology.com/
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S5E2 What Community Psychology can teach every therapist | Dr Ron Dodzro
How much of what brings someone to therapy can really be understood by looking at the individual alone?
In this episode, Dr Natalie Stott is joined by clinical psychologist Dr Ron Dodzro, also known as The Accessible Psychologist on social media, to explore community psychology and what changes when therapists widen the lens beyond the person sitting in front of them.
Drawing on his work in prisons and with young people affected by community violence, Ron discusses what it means to formulate the systems around a person, particularly when those systems may be contributing to their distress. He shares how his work has extended beyond individual therapy to include parents, teachers, prison officers and wider organisations.
Natalie and Ron also explore power and trust in therapy, including a striking example where Ron’s attempt to protect a young man’s confidentiality inadvertently made him feel less safe.
They discuss race and therapist identity, what our ideas about “professionalism” might communicate to different clients, and why sharing a demographic with someone doesn’t necessarily mean they will experience you as the right therapist for them.
An episode about looking beyond the individual and becoming more curious about what sits around the therapy room as well as what happens inside it.
Guest Information:
Dr Ron Dodzro is a clinical psychologist whose work spans trauma, community psychology and community violence. He has worked within the prison system and now works predominantly in community, charity and private settings, including with children and young people affected by community violence.
He is also co-founder of Psychologists the Streets Deserve (PTSD) providing psychological therapy, training and consultancy around trauma, PTSD and community violence.
Ron shares his work online as The Accessible Psychologist
Find Ron:
Instagram: The Accessible Psychologist
Organisation/Website: Psychologists the Streets Deserve (PTSD)
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SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
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S5E1: What if compassion makes a client feel worse? | Professor Paul Gilbert
What do you do when a client understands compassion perfectly well, but rejects it, distrusts it or feels worse when you introduce it?
Professor Paul Gilbert developed Compassion Focused Therapy for precisely the clients who cannot simply “be kinder” to themselves. In this episode, he explains the three clinical shocks that helped shape CFT. This is for those moments when clients can produce more balanced thoughts but deliver them in a cold or hostile tone. Many people experience kindness as weak, undeserved or almost toxic. For others, receiving care might activate painful memories held within the attachment system.
Dr Natalie Stott, Host and clinical psychologist discuss empathic bridging, the importance of social trust and why receiving compassion from others can be particularly difficult. Paul also revisits the familiar three circles model. He explains threat, drive and the system often called “soothing” through their evolutionary functions, including the role of connection in helping us return to a regulated state.
The conversation finishes with practical ways to bring compassion into everyday behaviour. These include changing the emotional tone of self-talk, practising one compassionate skill at a time and validating the emotion underneath an immediate reaction.
Guest Information:
Professor Paul Gilbert is a professor of clinical psychology at the University of Derby. He is the founder of Compassion Focused Therapy and the Compassionate Mind Foundation. His work has shaped clinical understandings of compassion, shame, self-criticism and threat.
Website: https://www.compassionatemind.co.uk/
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Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
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And this season we’re going quite a few places.
We open with Professor Paul Gilbert, founder of Compassion Focused Therapy, getting very practical. We talk through how to work with clients that really dislike the very concept of compassion despite in therapy recognising they might really need it
I’m talking to Dr Ron, The Accessible Psychologist, about community psychology, diversity, working in UK prisons and why he thinks being anti-diagnosis can sometimes be a position of privilege.
There’s Dr Kelly Savery on working with survivors of sexual abuse, including the conversations about sex and intimacy that therapists can be reluctant to have.
And we’re going beyond the clinical work too.
Josephine Hughes joins me to talk about niching and finding the work you really want to do. Blake Roberts from Therapy with Blake talks about social media, visibility and why therapists find putting themselves online so uncomfortable. I also speak to Jo from Pear about building a therapy matching service, fundraising and moving into the business world.
And, twelve months after our first conversation, ChatGPT is back. This time we get further into AI and therapy, safety, ethics and what we should be telling clients who are already using AI between sessions.
There are also conversations on ACT, narcissism and plenty more.
Have a listen to the trailer for a few clips from what’s coming.
Season 5 starts Thursday 17th September, with a new episode every Thursday through to December.
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BONUS: When Clients Disappear: The Reality of Therapy Endings (PT2)
Ever had a client vanish just before their final session? Or wondered why endings can feel so awkward sometimes for everyone in the room? This bonus episode of Mastering Therapy is a practical guide to therapy terminations, with a clinician’s eye on what really happens (and what goes unsaid). The conversation explores messy endings, why clients “ghost”, and how therapists can plan for sessions that fizzle or never happen at all.
Expect practical tools on handling your own reactions, scripts for easing those tricky conversations, and fresh reflections on when saying “goodbye” does or doesn’t mean the work is finished. Useful whether you’re NHS-based or in private practice. No mention of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), but plenty to chew over all the same.
The host is Dr. Natalie Stott, clinical psychologist, founder of Mastering Therapy and host of the Mastering Therapy podcast.
Timestamps
What Kind of Ending Is This? 2:56
When Clients Ghost 7:00
Planned Endings & Practical Options 13:10
Therapist-Led Endings 20:07
Resources mentioned:
What to do when guide HERE
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SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
Mentioned in this episode:
AIRNOTE | AI SCRIBE FOR THERAPISTS
AirNote is an affordable AI-powered note-taking app designed specifically for therapists in private practice.
AIRNOTE
What really happens when a client goes blank in therapy?
This episode dives into dissociation and distress in therapy sessions. Dr Natalie Stott helps make sense of those in-the-room moments where clients disconnect or shut down. Instead of offering set techniques, she shares what clients say actually helps, mistakes therapists often make, and how to understand what's really going on beneath the surface. There’s a strong focus on noticing before intervening, working collaboratively, and pacing sessions with care.
Highlights include:
01:15 What clients need when dissociating
04:11 Perfectionism and the urge to fix
10:13 Client quotes on what dissociation feels like
14:05 Distress vs dissociation—key differences
21:05 Therapist errors and how to avoid them
Resources mentioned:
GET THE WHAT TO DO WHEN GUIDE....
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To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest
For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com
*****
Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel
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SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
Mentioned in this episode:
AIRNOTE | AI SCRIBE FOR THERAPISTS
AirNote is an affordable AI-powered note-taking app designed specifically for therapists in private practice.
AIRNOTE
Do you wonder how much of yourself to share with clients in therapy?
Self-disclosure in therapy can feel like a tightrope walk,one foot in humanity, one in professionalism, and absolutely no brick walls in sight. In this sharp, practical episode, Dr Natalie Stott explores the everyday moments when clients ask about your personal life, and how your answer (or non-answer) shapes the relationship. Get clear on the difference between purposeful self-disclosure and those accidental reveals, like a stray photo on LinkedIn or being spotted with your dog at the park. We talk genuine connection, boundaries, and those inevitable “Are you married?” curveballs. This episode is essential listening for anyone navigating the unscripted art of being real in the consulting room.
TIMESTAMPS
Guest Information:
Social media: https://instagram.com/masteringtherapy
Website: www.masteringtherapy.com
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To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest
For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com
*****
Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel
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Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn
SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
Mentioned in this episode:
AIRNOTE | AI SCRIBE FOR THERAPISTS
AirNote is an affordable AI-powered note-taking app designed specifically for therapists in private practice.
AIRNOTE
How do you end your therapy sessions?
This episode looks at the art of closing a clinical hour in therapy by host Dr Natalie Stott. The discussion focuses on those crucial last few minutes of a session, how they shape the client's week, and what endings can reveal about both therapist and client. The episode covers practical ideas, common challenges in managing endings, and reflects on the role of therapist self-awareness. Full of practical tips and honest reflections, this episode offers a thoughtful approach to a part of therapy training many miss.
Highlights include:
00:25 Why endings in therapy matter
02:52 How memory works in therapy endings
05:02 Attachment patterns and client behaviour at the end of sessions
10:01 Practical time management and clear closing routines
13:05 Handling “hand on the door” disclosures
Guest Information:
Dr Natalie Stott is a Clinical Psychologist and host of the Mastering Therapy podcast. She creates practical CPD-style episodes, workshops and resources for psychologists, psychotherapists and counsellors who want to build confidence and skill in the therapy room.
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To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest
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Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel
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SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
Mentioned in this episode:
AIRNOTE | AI SCRIBE FOR THERAPISTS
AirNote is an affordable AI-powered note-taking app designed specifically for therapists in private practice.
AIRNOTE
S4E11: When Compassion Meets Cash: The Therapist’s Money Dilemmas | Dr Katja Windheim
Let’s talk about the money elephant in the therapy room. In this episode, clinical psychologist Katja Windheim aka “The Money Psychologist”— joins us to dissect why charging, chasing payments, and setting fees make therapists squirm more than the average tax return.
We get specific about how feelings, professional culture, and early training all shape our relationship to cash and what to do when your compassionate side wants to offer therapy for the price of a sandwich. Expect practical tips on strong financial boundaries, cancellation policies that don’t make you hate your diary, and why money talk belongs in supervision just as much as client dynamics. There’s no magic wand here, but you might start seeing your terms and conditions in a whole new light.
TIMESTAMPS
KEY TAKEAWAYS
GUEST
Katja Windheim is a clinical psychologist working under the name “The Money Psychologist”. She specialises in helping therapists untangle the practical and emotional knots around money, fees, and boundaries within their practices. She regularly runs live Zoom webinars on the emotional side of money in independent practice. Recorded versions of these are available for purchase on her website. She also offers small group coaching for those professionals who wish to explore this further. If you'd like to hear news and updates about these offers, please sign up to her newsletter on her website.
RESOURCES
** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes **
For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com
To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest
For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com
*****
Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel
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SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
Mentioned in this episode:
AIRNOTE | AI SCRIBE FOR THERAPISTS
AirNote is an affordable AI-powered note-taking app designed specifically for therapists in private practice.
AIRNOTE
S4E10: Understanding Maternal Rage: A Guide for Therapists | Dr Caroline Boyd
EPISODE SUMMARY
Is it just anger—or is it maternal rage? Dr. Natalie Stott sits down with Caroline to unpack why mothers feel rage so acutely, and why it matters to name it as a distinct experience. We look at the four contextual forces shaping maternal anger, how cultural myths make mothers feel inadequate, and how therapists can best support clients when rage is shrouded in shame. The episode covers practical steps for mapping client “parts”, bringing the body into therapy, and normalising anger in the context of motherhood and clinical practice. There’s also discussion on therapist disclosure, staying mindful of your own triggers, and ways to deepen your work with mothers. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) gets a mention in passing, but this conversation keeps the focus crisply UK-centric.
TIMESTAMPS
• 00:00 Definition and importance of maternal rage
• 00:10 Four contextual forces behind maternal anger
• 08:05 Therapist perspectives: bringing your own experiences into sessions
• 10:40 Asking mums about their own upbringing and anger
• 15:12 Mapping parts, parts work, and nervous system regulation
• 21:13 Impact of childhood experiences on adult anger
• 27:04 Using body awareness for anger management
• 41:06 Mapping parts and relating to “adult self”
• 44:32 Therapist disclosure and managing activation
• 51:00 Courses and resources for therapists and mums
KEY TAKEAWAYS
• Maternal rage is distinct from everyday anger—it’s shaped by societal, cultural, and personal forces.
• Mapping parts (IFS-informed) helps clients understand protective, wounded, perfectionist, and avoidant pieces of themselves.
• Normalising anger, referencing current research, and naming its prevalence helps reduce client shame.
• Therapists should sensitively explore how anger was held and expressed in clients’ upbringing.
• Body-based techniques and nervous system regulation are essential for helping mothers manage anger.
• Consider the impact of perfectionism and inner critic parts, which often drive maternal distress.
• Therapist disclosure needs careful consideration—check your motives and the client’s readiness before sharing.
GUEST
Clinical psychologist Dr Caroline Boyd has over 10 years' experience working in the NHS and mental health settings, and she supports parents from pregnancy to childbirth and beyond. Caroline offers anger courses, workshops and 1:1 therapy, alongside training and supervision, in her independent psychology practice, Parent Therapy Hub. Caroline is the author of Mindful New Mum, and her published research explores mothers' experiences of intrusive thoughts about their babies. Her work has been featured in You magazine, Grazia, the Telegraph, and BBC R4’s Woman's Hour. She is an Ambassador for UK perinatal mental health charity, PANDAS, and appeared as an expert guest on ITV’s daytime show, This Morning, to discuss postpartum depression. Caroline shares psychology ideas on Instagram and in the media to help parents feel less alone and more connected - to themselves and their children.d writes extensively on maternal rage, using parts work and body-based approaches.
Contact her- Website
RESOURCES
• Caroline’s maternal rage course for mums use MASTERINGTHERAPY code for £100 OFF
Training & Supervision for therapists: HERE
The course helps mums move from anger and shame to understanding and repair - in just six, manageable video lessons designed to fit around busy family life.
You don’t need to be experiencing full-blown rage to benefit. Many mums take the course simply to understand their emotions better and reconnect with themselves and those they love.
It’s for every mum who’s ever felt stretched too thin by:
🎯 Broken sleep that leaves you on edge
🎯 The invisible mental load that never ends
🎯 Toddler meltdowns that test every ounce of patience
🎯 Feeling unseen or unsupported by your partner or family
🎯 The pressure to do it all perfectly and sacrifice your own needs
** Check out Mastering Therapy’s Youtube Channel for all podcast episodes **
For notification on up coming episodes and for occasional summaries of tools discussed on the podcast sign up here: www.masteringtherapy.com
To recommend a topic you’d like to hear about, or if you’d like to appear on the podcast please get in touch at www.masteringtherapy.com/guest
For private psychology services and therapy visit www.drnataliestott.com
*****
Subscribe to the Mastering Therapy Podcast YouTube channel
Follow Mastering therapy on instagram
Connect with Dr Natalie Stott on LinkedIn
SUPERVISOR PLATFORM
Supervisor Platform is an online directory designed for therapists, psychologists, counsellors, and other mental health professionals to connect with qualified clinical supervisors. It makes it easy for practitioners to browse, compare, and contact supervisors based on their expertise, approach, and availability, while giving supervisors a professional space to showcase their services.
Disclaimer: The Mastering therapy podcast and the information provided by Dr Natalie Stott (Dclinpsych, HPCP reg), is solely intended for informational and educational purposes and should only be used by qualified professionals.
Mentioned in this episode:
AIRNOTE | AI SCRIBE FOR THERAPISTS
AirNote is an affordable AI-powered note-taking app designed specifically for therapists in private practice.
AIRNOTE
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