Green Party co-leader James Shaw joins Toby Manhire to explain how he’s striving to get climate change on the agenda in a cost-of-living campaign, the “ultimate threat multiplier” and the agony of rewatching The West Wing.

This is an excerpt from our day-long Election 2023 Megapod, recorded on September 20. Watch the full megapod livestream here.

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