Men of Steel

There are few pairings that can rival the acclaim of Batman and Superman, but the teaming of Mark Waid with Dan Mora may be a solid challenger! Jim Fetters is back to chat with Case and Jmike about the first arc in DC's Batman / Superman: World's Finest.

●      In episode 134 of the Podcast Discussion meeting, hosts Casey Aiken and Jmike Folson, joined by guest Jim Fetters, delve into the intricacies of the "World's Finest" comic series, focusing on the first arc encompassing issues 1-6. They commend the creative efforts of Mark Waid and Dan Mora, highlighting the series' blend of Silver Age charm and contemporary storytelling. Key discussions include the engaging character dynamics between Robin and Supergirl, the introduction of the villain Devil Neza, and the seamless integration of time travel elements. Mora's dynamic art style receives particular praise, alongside Waid's effective narrative techniques, such as flashbacks and emotional portrayals of iconic characters. The hosts celebrate the comic's positive tone, contrasting it with darker narratives in recent years, and recommend "World's Finest" as a standout title from DC's current lineup. The meeting concludes with Jim Fetters sharing details about his work and the hosts providing podcast information for listeners.

●      #####  World's Finest Comic Discussion (00:00 - 11:36). Podcast hosts Casey Aiken and J. Mike Falsen discuss World's Finest comic. Guest Jim Fetters joins to talk about the first arc (issues 1-6). Mark Waid and Dan Mora praised for their work on the series. Comic set in an unspecified past with Silver Age elements. Dick Grayson's Robin highlighted as a standout character. Supergirl and Robin's awkward relationship introduced

●      #####  Character Dynamics and Story Elements (11:36 - 22:43). Devil Nezha introduced as the main villain. Doom Patrol incorporated into the story. Time travel elements discussed, including Supergirl's casual ability to fly through time. Batman and Superman's friendship portrayed effectively. Dan Mora's art style compared to Norm Breyfogle's work

●      #####  Art and Storytelling Techniques (22:43 - 31:53). Dan Mora's art praised for its effectiveness and dynamic style. Mark Waid's storytelling techniques highlighted, including use of flashbacks. General Immortus character moment discussed. Batman-Superman fusion scene praised

●      #####  Story Structure and Character Development (31:54 - 41:22). Cliffhangers at the end of issues noted as effective. Batman's emotional portrayal discussed. Superman depicted as competent, capable, and compassionate. Book praised for its positive tone compared to darker recent comics

●      #####  Overall Praise and Recommendations (41:22 - 53:03). World's Finest recommended as one of DC's best current titles. Hosts and guest express enthusiasm for continuing to read the series. Jim Fetters shares where to find his work online. Podcast information and social media details shared

It’s time to look at what just might be technically the current origin of Superman, Geoff Johns and Gary Frank’s Secret Origin miniseries! Alex McConnell joins Case and Jmike to look at this retro reboot of the Man of Tomorrow’s earliest adventures!

Find Alex: ADMcConnell.com

Overview

In the latest episode of the podcast, the hosts delve into the intricate world of Superman through a detailed discussion of the "Secret Origins" comic, featuring a guest expert, Alex McConnell. They explore the nuances of Superman's character evolution, particularly how Geoff Johns tends to revert heroes to their classic Silver and Bronze Age personas, and they critically examine Gary Frank’s artistic style. The hosts debate various iterations of Superman's origin stories, alongside the significance of his relationships with characters like Lana Lang and Lois Lane. They also analyze the portrayals of villains such as Lex Luthor and Metallo, emphasizing the impact of Metropolis' development and the role of media as embodied by the Daily Planet. Additionally, they touch upon themes of continuity, the shifting canon within DC Comics, and the story's broader cultural implications, including discussions on media ethics and public perception. Ultimately, the episode offers profound insights into the entwined relationships and symbolism within Superman's narrative and its portrayal of superhero culture.

Notes

Superman Origins Discussion (00:00 - 10:25)

• Discussing Superman's Secret Origins comic

• Geoff Johns' tendency to revert characters to Silver/Bronze Age versions

• Comparison of Gary Frank's art style over time

• Introduction of guest Alex McConnell

Comic Book History and Context (10:25 - 22:50)

• Discussion of Legion of Superheroes storylines and continuity

• Comparison of different Superman origin stories

• Debate on bringing back classic elements vs. new interpretations

• Analysis of post-crisis Superman and its impact

Art and Character Design (22:50 - 33:25)

• Critique of Gary Frank's art style in Secret Origins

• Discussion of Clark Kent's personality and relationships

• Analysis of Lex Luthor's character development

• Comparison to other Superman media adaptations

‍♀️ Character Relationships and Development (33:25 - 43:29)

• Exploration of Clark's relationships with Lana Lang and Lois Lane

• Discussion of Superman's powers and their manifestation

• Analysis of the Kent family dynamics

• Debate on the portrayal of Metropolis and its citizens

Villains and Supporting Characters (43:29 - 53:25)

• Introduction and analysis of Rudy Jones/Parasite

• Discussion of John Corbin/Metallo's origin

• Exploration of Lex Luthor's role in Metropolis

• Analysis of military and government involvement in the story

Metropolis and World-Building (53:25 - 01:05:00)

• Discussion of Metropolis' portrayal before and after Superman's arrival

• Analysis of Lex Luthor's influence on the city

• Exploration of the Daily Planet's role in the story

• Debate on the military's portrayal and xenophobia themes

Action Sequences and Power Usage (01:05:00 - 01:15:07)

• Analysis of Superman's fight with Metallo

• Discussion of creative power usage in combat

• Exploration of kryptonite's effects and portrayal

• Debate on the pacing and timeline of events in the story

Media and Public Perception (01:15:07 - 01:24:21)

• Discussion of the Daily Planet's role in shaping public opinion

• Analysis of Lois Lane's character and journalism style

• Exploration of Superman's impact on Metropolis culture

• Debate on the story's portrayal of media ethics and responsibility

Continuity and Canon Discussion (01:24:21 - 01:33:16)

• Analysis of Secret Origins' place in Superman canon

• Discussion of DC Comics' reboots and timeline changes

• Comparison to other Superman origin stories and adaptations

• Final thoughts on the comic's strengths and weaknesses

What is this? A podcast or an operating table? Duke is back to join Case and Jmike into the legendary book, The Dark Knight Returns… from the perspective of Superman fans.

●      In the recent Podcast Recording meeting titled "The Dark Knight Returns," the hosts engaged in a comprehensive discussion about the iconic comic "The Dark Knight Returns." Starting with episode art options, they settled on a dynamic design featuring Superman above Batman. The conversation delved into various facets of the comic, analyzing its commentary on 1980s society, politics, and character portrayals, particularly of Batman, Superman, and new characters like Carrie Kelly. They highlighted themes such as Batman's psychological struggles post-retirement, the intense Batman vs. Superman conflict, and the significance of media influence within the story. The meeting concluded with reflections on the comic's legacy and recommendations for listeners to explore more content from the podcast network.

●      🦸 Dark Knight Returns Discussion (00:00 - 11:48)

●      Discussed episode art options for the podcast

●      Decided on J Mike's suggestion of Superman floating above Batman

●      Introduced the topic of 'The Dark Knight Returns' comic

●      Highlighted Frank Miller's storytelling techniques and panel layouts

●      Discussed the comic's portrayal of Batman and its influence on the character

●      📚 Comic Analysis and Context (11:48 - 21:32)

●      Examined the comic's representation of 1980s society and politics

●      Discussed the portrayal of various characters, including Superman, Lana Lang, and Jimmy Olsen

●      Analyzed the comic's themes and its critique of Reagan-era politics

●      Highlighted the comic's dense storytelling and efficient use of panels

●      🦇 Batman's Return and Character Development (21:32 - 31:23)

●      Discussed Batman's return from retirement and his psychological state

●      Analyzed the introduction of Carrie Kelly as the new Robin

●      Examined the portrayal of villains, particularly Two-Face and Joker

●      Discussed the comic's commentary on media and society

●      🚀 Superman's Role and Portrayal (31:23 - 42:40)

●      Analyzed Superman's presence in the story and his relationship with the government

●      Discussed the comic's portrayal of Superman as a powerful but conflicted character

●      Examined the build-up to the confrontation between Batman and Superman

●      Highlighted the comic's use of media commentary and world events

●      💥 Batman vs. Superman Conflict (42:42 - 52:02)

●      Discussed the iconic fight between Batman and Superman

●      Analyzed the tactics and preparation Batman uses against Superman

●      Examined the weakened state of Superman due to various factors

●      Discussed the implications of the fight and its resolution

●      🎭 Character Analysis and Comic Impact (52:02 - 01:00:02)

●      Analyzed the portrayal of various characters, including Green Arrow and Carrie Kelly

●      Discussed the comic's influence on subsequent Batman and Superman stories

●      Examined the comic's legacy and its impact on the superhero genre

●      Highlighted the comic's nuanced portrayal of its characters

●      🎬 Wrap-up and Final Thoughts (01:00:03 - 01:08:56)

●      Discussed the comic's standalone nature and its sequels

●      Shared personal opinions on the comic and its various adaptations

●      Provided information on where to find the podcast hosts and guest online

●      Promoted other podcasts and content from the network

How much pressure would it take for the Man of Steel to break? Jesse Fresco joins Case and Jmike to look at a series that asked that question: Irredeemable, written by Mark Waid, drawn by Peter Krause and Diego Barreto.

With the second season of My Adventures with Superman concluded, Case and Jmike are once again joined by Red and Blue from Overly Sarcastic Productions to reflect on it.

What if you had never been hurt? Never been sick? Would you be hero? Sophia Ricciardi joins Case and Jmike for some analysis of this stealth superhero movie.

And make sure you check out the other side of this crossover by checking out Case's appearance on MovieStruck talking about the movie beat by beat: https://moviestruck.transistor.fm/episodes/moviestruck-episode-81-unbreakable-2000-feat-case-aiken

Did you know that Superman had a board game in the 50s? If Ebay didn’t exist, we wouldn’t have either! Keith Lehtinen joins Case and Jmike for some commentary and game highlights on this relic from a simpler time.

Not all superheroes wear capes. Some are teenagers with attitude! Nic Woolfe is back to chat about arguably the greatest Power Ranger of them all, Tommy Oliver!

The back half of the classic Superman shorts suffered from a drop in budget and a restructuring of the studio working on it. To look at these lesser cousins to the stellar Fleischer Studios Superman cartoons, Anthony Desiato (Digging For Kryptonite podcast) joins Case and Jmike for a conversation on the less notable but still... Famous... Superman shorts.

For many, the Fleischer Studios produced Superman Animated Shorts are the classic depiction of the Man of Steel and it's about time we talked about them.  For this conversation, Case and Jmike are joined by Brendan and Nick Connors from the City of Supers podcast.