Royal Navy and British Army veterans Brian and Charles examine the circumstances surrounding the grounding of New Zealand naval vessel HMNZS Manawanui in 2024.

They pay particular attention to the competencies of the crew and captain as the ship was under the command of a female Royal Navy officer who was not formally qualified for the role. This point was glossed over by the Inquiry.

The conversation then leads into a wider discussion about the failure of current military leadership, its failure to address the deliberate destruction of their respective services and the pernicious current of political influence.

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