In this thought-provoking episode of Mindset Matters, Patrick and Steffany Francey dive deep into the metaphor of “the banana” — the limiting beliefs, old identities, emotional baggage, and outdated stories we cling to that keep us stuck and prevent growth.

Using the story of how hunters trap monkeys with bananas, Patrick explores how our grip on the past, much like the monkey’s grip on the fruit, often becomes our own trap. Whether it’s a past trauma, a title or role we once held, or a belief that we’re not enough, these “bananas” shape our decisions and hold us back from living authentically and powerfully.

Steffany shares powerful insights about identity, forgiveness, and the hidden resistance to moving forward. Her recent personal experience—winning a prestigious, unexpected award—illustrates how even recognition can bring up questions of worth and identity. Together, they explore how people often stay stuck in comfort or familiarity rather than face the discomfort of the unknown, and how clinging to the past can prevent us from fully stepping into our potential.

This episode is rich with real-life examples, humor, and heartfelt dialogue as Patrick and Steffany challenge listeners to reflect on what they might be holding onto—and encourage them to let go with compassion and awareness. With key themes of personal growth, resilience, self-awareness, and emotional freedom, this episode inspires you to identify your own “banana,” loosen your grip, and create space for new possibilities.