Are children bad for the health of the planet, and therefore human civilization? Should we stop making them? Or do we need to step it up and make lots more than we're currently making (does anyone have a good recipe)? Or does the intelligent answer lie somewhere in-between? The GrowthBusters podcast team doesn't shy away from tough topics when the fate of human civilization hangs in the balance. In this episode, Ben, Kaitlyn and Dave discuss recent news headlines about fertility rates and offer their opinions on the views of Matt Lewis (The Daily Beast) and Travis Rieder (Berman Institute of Bioethics). Over 15,000 of the world's scientists also weigh in. Here are links promised during the conversation: Travis Rieder piece at NBC News Digital: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/science-proves-kids-are-bad-earth-morality-suggests-we-stop-ncna820781 Matt Lewis piece at The Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-fertility-rate-is-way-down-and-yes-thats-a-huge-problem World Scientists' Warning to Humanity – A Second Notice: https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/doi/10.1093/biosci/bix125/4605229