In the face of accelerated global warming and increasingly severe consequences of climate disruption, UN projections are outdated and understating the problem, and the U.S. is going to produce and burn fossil fuels like they’re going out of business. Meanwhile Trump wants to be sure Gazans aren’t using condoms to float bombs over the border, and to be sure condoms and other family planning resources are not available the world over.

On a positive note, a small town in Canada has adopted a “Limits to Growth” policy. Learn more about it in this episode.

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MENTIONED:

Global Warming Has Accelerated: Are the United Nations and the Public Well-Informed? By James Hansen et al.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00139157.2025.2434494

ReproductiveRights.Gov Vanished, So We Brought It Backhttps://www.theskimm.com/news/reproductive-rights-gov

District of Tofino Council Adopts 'Limits to Growth' Policyhttps://www.westerlynews.ca/local-news/district-of-tofino-council-adopts-limits-to-growth-policy-7701330

Is optimism required in order to alert folks to our ecological overshoot emergency? Dave and Stephanie discuss the challenge of communicating the depth and urgency of overshoot without shutting people down.

Also:

• Dave shares how he and a group of local growthbusters projected a guerilla “pop-up” billboard on New Year’s Eve – attempting to provide an honest reality check, but not put revelers off (or entice police or security personnel to stop them)
• The wisdom in U.S. President Jimmy Carter’s “malaise” speech
• Congestion pricing results in kids walking, riding bikes, or taking public transit to school
• China wants to goose consumption in order to keep high GDP growth
• Rampant growthism in reporting on UK economic contraction
• Incoming Trump advisors count on economic growth to balance the budget
• The enormous carbon footprint of stadium concerts and sporting events
• A new book by Robin Wall Kimmerer: The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

President Jimmy Carter’s “Malaise” Speechhttps://youtu.be/sXwZSzy9Ies?si=ekyAsmL0FokRvpCc

London Saw a Surprising Benefit to Fining High-Polluting Cars: More Active Kidshttps://grist.org/cities/london-fining-polluting-cars-more-active-kids/

How the Debt Could Topple Trump’s Growth Agendahttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/16/trump-ceos-american-debt-plan-00194362

The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World - by Robin Wall Kimmererhttps://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/books

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Dave and Stephanie dig into what caused voters to ignore Donald Trump’s felony convictions, indecency, incompetence, narcissism, and dishonesty – and elect him president. This includes a review of the 50-year war waged by the mega-rich and corporations to undermine civility, compassion, equity and rule of law, to elevate the free enterprise system, rob the working class and enrich themselves. The Lewis Powell Memo kicked this into high gear 50 years ago.

They also propose theories about why Dave’s campaign for president failed in its mission to alert the public, media and policymakers to the ecological overshoot emergency.

Clips: Desi Lydic on The Daily Show on Comedy Central and Jimmy Kimmel on Jimmy Kimmel Live on ABC.

Mentioned in this episode: Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, Elon Musk, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, William Kristol, Andrew Egger, Dan Lashoff of World Resources Institute, American Petroleum Institute, Guttmacher Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Hoover Institution, Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation, Mercatus Center, Warren Beatty, Jane Fonda, Terry Spahr, John McCain, Reagan, Bush, Grist.

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LINKS:

 Desi Lydic Reacts to Trump's Election Win & the Media's Blame Game | The Daily Showhttps://youtu.be/hPHH5trgC1w?si=vww-V3qoIRpLCgmH

Jimmy Kimmel Reacts to Donald Trump Winning the Presidential Electionhttps://youtu.be/5JxELubSgJg?si=v9LRIHd5FqDZCQLf

Strong Economy Begins With Shrinking Workforce - Episode 84 of the GrowthBusters podcasthttps://www.growthbusters.org/strong-economy-shrinking-workforce/

Dave the Planet – Dave’s campaign Substack columnhttps://davetheplanet.substack.com

I’m Withdrawing from the Race for U.S. President - Episode 21 of the Dave the Planet podcasthttps://davetheplanet.substack.com/p/im-withdrawing-from-the-race-for

Welcome to Overshoot: Have a Nice Day – episode of the Conversation Earth podcasthttp://www.conversationearth.org/welcome-to-overshoot-2020/

Trump Wins, Planet Loses – by Tik Root on Gristhttps://grist.org/article/the-massive-consequences-trumps-re-election-could-have-on-climate-change/

If Trump Wins, Is It Game Over? – by David Todd McCarty on Mediumhttps://medium.com/rome-magazine/if-trump-wins-is-it-game-over-26f1cc296342

The Billionaires Won: The 50-Year War on Democracy That Built Trump's Oligarchy and Killed the American Dream – by Thom Hartmannhttps://hartmannreport.com/p/the-billionaires-won-the-50-year-841

The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracyhttps://www.greenpeace.org/usa/democracy/the-lewis-powell-memo-a-corporate-blueprint-to-dominate-democracy/

Tentacles of Rage: The Republican Propaganda Mill, a Brief History – by Lewis Laphamhttps://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gned/laphamtentacles04.pdf

Dave the Planet Substack columnhttps://davetheplanet.substack.com/

Dave Gardner for Presidenthttps://davetheplanet2024.com

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A new study debunks depopulation panic. For decades economists have perpetuated the false narrative, “If population growth reverses and begins to decline, the economy is doomed.” This belief has so frequently been repeated by economists, politicians, business people and the public, that it is generally taken as gospel. Psychologists have characterized the phenomenon as the illusory-truth effect, or believing something to be true if it’s repeated often enough, even if it is false.

For the first time in modern history, a handful of countries are witnessing actual population declines. The data is now available to separate reality from what has heretofore been baseless theory.

An October 2023 study conducted by Professors Theodore Lianos, Anastasia Pseiridis and Nicholas Tsounis, published in Humanities and Social Sciences Communications and featured on Nature.com examined volumes of economic data of twenty countries experiencing population declines. To their surprise, virtually every country with a contracting population enjoyed reduced unemployment, increased wages, and a larger real GDP per capita!

Guest-host Terry Spahr, Executive Director of Earth Overshoot, speaks with the study’s authors to illuminate their findings that dispel the firmly entrenched false notion that endless growth is the only path to economic salvation.

Guests:

Theodore Lianos Professor, Athens University of Economics and Business

Anastasia PseiridisAssistant Professor of Economics, Department of Economics and Regional DevelopmentPanteion University

Regular co-hosts Dave Gardner and Stephanie Gardner are taking a break from the podcast while Dave runs for U.S. President this year. If you would like to guest-host a podcast, email us with details of the episode you would like to produce and host.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Declining Population and GDP Growthhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-02223-7

Summary published at The Overpopulation Projecthttps://overpopulation-project.com/declining-population-and-gdp-growth/

Earth Overshoothttps://www.earthovershoot.org/

Dave Gardner's Campaign https://davetheplanet2024.com

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We made it VERY clear that Musk’s worries about population collapse are ill-founded, and that attracted thousands more listeners than usual to our podcast. How did that happen? What kind of comments did we get? Find out in this episode. And get important truths about overshoot and overpopulation.

 Plus, learn how we’ll give YOU the mic for an episode of the GrowthBusters podcast. We explain the long wait for this episode, and share our offer to listeners to “adopt” a future episode to discuss an aspect of limits to growth important to you.

 If you do want to guest-host an episode, email us your proposal. Include a paragraph or two about you, and a paragraph or two about your proposed topic, guest, approach, etc.

 MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Eight Billion is Too Many: Don’t be a Twit About Overpopulation (Episode 73 of the GrowthBusters podcast)https://www.growthbusters.org/8-billion-is-too-many/

This episode on YouTube (so you can read the comments)https://youtu.be/cKPnJU59tHw?si=rmkxk4mU9YT3d5G7

Paul Ehrlich on The Limits to Growth (Episode 70 of the GrowthBusters podcast)https://www.growthbusters.org/ehrlich-limits-to-growth/

GrowthBusters Podcast YouTube channelhttps://youtube.com/@growthbusterspodcast

Dave the Planet 2024 (Dave Gardner’s campaign for U.S. President)https://davetheplanet2024.com

GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – Dave’s 2011 documentary, now available free on YouTubehttps://growthbustersmovie.org

Episode graphic includes a photo of Elon Musk by Steve Jurvetson, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons. We turned him on his side and added the fire.

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The Michigan Governor is apparently unaware that the world, the U.S. and even Michigan are overpopulated. Michigan population has been growing a little too slowly for her taste, so Whitmer has appointed a Chief Growth Officer and formed the Growing Michigan Together Council. Not surprisingly, her bottom line is to “spur economic growth.”

In an episode you should share with YOUR governor, you’ll get the details and find out why this news puts “a bee in Dave’s bonnet,” plus news about some outstanding new studies, a wonderful commentary in Newsweek, a crazy podcast you’ll like, and a possible candidate for U.S. President.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

A Just World on a Safe Planet: First Study Quantifying Earth System Boundaries https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/news/latest-news/a-just-world-on-a-safe-planet-first-study-quantifying-earth-system-boundaries

Gov. Whitmer Appoints Michigan’s First-Ever Chief Growth Officer (news release) https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/news/press-releases/2023/06/01/whitmer-appoints-michigans-first_ever-chief-growth-officer

Gov. Whitmer Establishes the ‘Growing Michigan Together Council’ to Focus on Population Growth, Building a Brighter Future for Michigan (news release) https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/news/press-releases/2023/06/01/whitmer-establishes-the-growing-michigan-together-council-to-focus-on-population-growth

Gretchen Whitmer Keynote Address at Mackinac Policy Conference https://youtu.be/jTfnZbSZRpM

Arizona Announces Limits on Construction in Phoenix Area as Groundwater Disappears https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/01/us/arizona-phoenix-groundwater-limits-development-climate/index.html

Mass Immigration Experiment Gives Canada an Edge in Global Race For Labor https://economictimes.indiatimes.com//nri/work/mass-immigration-experiment-gives-canada-an-edge-in-global-race-for-labor/articleshow/101100076.cms

Saying Out Loud What Others Won't Even Whisper About Climate Change – by Kirsten Stade https://www.newsweek.com/saying-out-loud-what-others-wont-even-whisper-about-climate-change-opinion-1806109

Population Growth is the Main Driver of Increased Carbon Emissions, Study Finds https://phys.org/news/2023-04-population-growth-main-driver-carbon.html

Crazy Town podcast – Post Carbon Institute https://www.resilience.org/crazy-town-podcast/

Learn more about possible presidential campaign https://davetheplanet2024.wixsite.com/dave-the-planet

Shop and Sell Your Clothes Sustainably With These 13 Buyback and Resale Programs https://www.ecowatch.com/clothes-buyback-resale-programs.html

Recycle or Purchase Used Levi’s Jeans https://www.secondhand.levi.com/trade-in

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Are many vegans self-righteous, overbearing and insufferable in their efforts to recruit us? Would you believe “overpopulation” is still a taboo word? Or that human population numbers are still an “off-limits” topic at some conferences? This episode continues the conversation we began in episode 79 with five smart people:   Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance Sarah Bexell, director of humane education at the Institute for Human Animal Connection at University of Denver Paul Sutton, professor of geography & the environment at DU Stephanie Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast Dave Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast     MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Population Balance https://populationbalance.org

Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism - by Kirsten Stade https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/

Pro-Birth Policies Are Killing Us – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197   Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child (Course at Antioch University taught by Nandita Bajaj) https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course   Backpedalling on Overpopulation – by Rory Cockshaw https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/backpedalling-on-overpopulation   Trains, Plants and Condoms: How to Save the Planet in 3 Simple Steps – by Rory Cockshaw https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/trains-plants-and-condoms   Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World – by Anand Giridharadas https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37506348   The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market – by Dr. Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57693264   How Free-Market Fundamentalism Fuels Overpopulation Denialism & Undermines Democracy – Episode of The Overpopulation Podcast with Naomi Oreskes https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts/naomi-oreskes   President Condemns ‘Obsession’ With Economic Growth Irish President Michael D Higgins speaks out against growth https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/president-condemns-obsession-with-economic-growth/   Welcome To MAGA World: Trump Wants 'Freedom Cities' Where Cars Can Fly, Parents Get 'BONUSES' for Having Babies and Huge Monuments are Built to 'True American Heroes' in 'Quantum Leap' Vision for the Future https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818381/Trumps-2024-pitch-New-cities-flying-cars-babies.html

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Students in a DU ecological economics class discuss their biggest concerns and how our society might overcome them. Overshoot, polarization, the American Dream, politics, selfish individualism, and the capitalism growth imperative are among the topics explored – as GrowthBuster Dave Gardner sits down with leaders of tomorrow.   Dave is joined by Professor Paul Sutton at the University of Denver and students Lilia Davis, Julia Gainey, Cassienne Levan, Nathan Cox, Mikey Ford, Geordie Shonk, Elsa Krantz, and Alexandra Van de Water. Surprisingly, all the students seem to have a clear picture of how deadly serious our overshoot predicament is, but - just as surprisingly - optimism wasn’t found wanting.   MENTIONED:   GrowthBusters Campus Tour https://www.growthbusters.org/campus-tour/   What Do College Students Think Their Future Holds? – Episode 65 of the GrowthBusters podcast https://www.growthbusters.org/college-students-think/   Overshoot: World’s Best Introduction – Episode 57 of the GrowthBusters podcast https://www.growthbusters.org/overshoot-worlds-best-introduction/   G7 Clean Energy Economy Action Plan - May 20, 2023 Statement https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/20/g7-clean-energy-economy-action-plan/

Five thought leaders break the silence on the role of human overpopulation in ecological overshoot –with an informed, engaging conversation about the subject. This is what intelligent discourse sounds like.

For thirty years, many people – some well-intentioned – have been trying to silence discourse about human overpopulation. One of our goals on the GrowthBusters podcast is to break that silence, and this episode does that well by bringing together three great thinkers – actually five, educators and crusaders on the subject. The occasion was a visit to Colorado by Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance and co-host of The Overpopulation Podcast.

Nandita designed & teaches the first graduate course on Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child at the Institute for Humane Education at Antioch University. As a bonus, we were joined by her hosts from the University of Denver, Paul Sutton and Sarah Bexell. Sarah leads DU’s Center for Sustainability and teaches at the Institute for Humane Education. Paul is Professor in the Department. of Geography & the Environment, and teaches geographic statistics, population geography, and ecological economics.

The conversation covers a lot of ground – pronatalism, animal rights, human rights, and collaboration.

LINKS:

Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child -Nandita’s course at Antioch University https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course

Abortion Bans Are a Natural Outgrowth of Coercive Pronatalism – by Nandita Bajaj, in Ms. magazine https://msmagazine.com/2022/06/07/abortion-bans-coercive-pronatalism-forced-birth/

Dismissal of “Population Alarmism” is Rooted in Pronatalist Ideology – by Nandita Bajaj https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/opinion/5709-dismissal-of-population-alarmism-is-rooted-in-pronatalist-ideology

Challenging Pronatalism Is Key to Advancing Reproductive Rights and a Sustainable Population – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade https://www.whp-journals.co.uk/JPS/article/view/819

Coercive Pro-Birth Policies Have Devastating Impacts on People and the Planet  – in Newsweek, by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197

Population Balance https://www.populationbalance.org/

The Overpopulation Podcast https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts

Countdown - by Alan Weisman https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17332183-countdown

Mechai Viraveidya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechai_Viravaidya

Overpopulation Facts - The Problem No One Will Discuss - Alexandra Paul’s TedX talk https://youtu.be/fNxctzyNxC0

Population Media Center https://www.populationmedia.org/

The Green Growth Delusion – 1st installment of new series, Green Tinted Glasses – by Christopher Ketcham https://www.truthdig.com/dig/green-tinted-glasses/

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Join the GrowthBusters online community https://growthbusters.groups.io/

GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube https://youtu.be/_w0LiBsVFBo

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Why do discussions of overpopulation often elicit emotional responses of fear, anger, or indignation? Are anger and indignation what prevents productive discussion of population? These responses in a graduate college class provide an opportunity to explore how we might pave the way for productive conversations. Our guest in this episode, Professor Christopher Bystroff of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute wonders whether a “global therapy session” could end what he describes as a “global, sullen silence.” We need intelligent discourse on the subject, but too often it is being shut down.

Open, honest, and factual discussion of the human overpopulation crisis can put an end to the myths, misassumptions and misinformation that cloud the subject. Spoiler alert: we don’t find a fast-acting, magic solution, but Dave does come up with one good idea – “a pill that makes men more mature.”

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Chris Bystroff https://faculty.rpi.edu/chris-bystroff  Footprints to Singularity: A Global Population Model Explains Late 20th Century Slow-Down and Predicts Peak Within Ten Years – by Chris Bystroff https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247214 Don’t Reduce Your Footprint! – by Mathis Wackernagel https://www.footprintnetwork.org/2023/01/18/dont-reduce-your-footprint/? You Deserve the Truth About Overpopulation – by Dave Gardner (in our Ending Overshoot Medium publication) https://medium.com/ending-overshoot/you-deserve-the-truth-about-overpopulation-784f40e46902 I’m Thankful Smart People are Telling the Truth https://medium.com/ending-overshoot/im-thankful-smart-people-are-telling-the-truth-654f3ae27155 Ending Overshoot – publication on Medium https://medium.com/ending-overshoot Overshoot: World’s Best Introduction – episode 57 of the GrowthBusters podcast https://www.growthbusters.org/overshoot-worlds-best-introduction/ Jimmy Kimmel for Vice President http://jk4vp.com/

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The Fossil Fuel Industry is a Factory of Fairy Tales, Says Activist and School Strike for Climate Organizer Luisa Neubauer https://www.ted.com/talks/luisa_neubauer_the_fairy_tales_of_the_fossil_fuel_industry_and_a_better_climate_story/comments The Last Tourist https://thelasttouristfilm.com Al Bartlett Growth and Sustainability Lecture October 27, 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O133ppiVnWY&t=1806s

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