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Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos thinks the U.S. can grow its way out of a massive deficit. He says we need a "growth mindset." Stephanie and Dave call it a "suicide economic model," and note that growth addiction is exactly what afflicts most policymakers around the world. The dynamic duo discuss the little-understood fact that a shrinking economy can be healthy – when it accompanies a contracting population. Bezos also proposes that we plunder the universe in order to protect Earth "we've sent robotic probes to all of the planets in this solar system. This is the good one.")

Also:

The Congressional Budget Office lowers U.S. population projections, further stoking the fires of depopulation panic – the result of a lack of overpopulation literacy

Isaac Asimov's "metaphor of the bathroom," about the need for more regulation as our population grows (we dug up great video of Asimov; see link below)

The parable of the Mexican fisherman

A great poem, Rather Than by Sandy Trust. Featured in an episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Planet Critical (see link below)

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Congressional Budget Office Lowers U.S. Population Projectionshttps://www.cbo.gov/publication/61164#_idTextAnchor003

Immigrants Fill the Birth Dearth: U.S. Population Will Crater Without NewcomersNew York Daily News editorialhttps://www.nydailynews.com/2025/01/17/immigrants-fill-the-birth-dearth-u-s-population-will-crater-without-newcomers/

The Interview: From Amazon to Space — Jeff Bezos Talks Innovation, Progress and What's Next – 2024 New York Times DealBook Summit, with Andrew Ross Sorkinhttps://youtu.be/s71nJQqzYRQ?si=uTMCtPVaXw8WnDeD

The Four Hour Work Week - by Tim Ferrisshttps://fourhourworkweek.com/

The Story of the Mexican Fishermanhttps://bemorewithless.com/the-story-of-the-mexican-fisherman/ A blog post on the website of Courtney Carver, author of Soulful Simplicity: How Living with Less Can Lead to So Much More, and Gentle: Rest More, Stress Less, and Live the Life You Actually Want

Isaac Asimov on World of Ideas – 1988 Interview by Bill Moyershttps://youtu.be/CWovZtCQWfE?si=nnxiJJb8LmC026Q_

Planetary Solvency – Finding Our Balance With Nature – report by Institute and Faculty of Actuarieshttps://actuaries.org.uk/news-and-media-releases/news-articles/2025/jan/16-jan-25-planetary-solvency-finding-our-balance-with-nature/

Planetary Solvency: Sandy Trust – episode of Planet Critical with Rachel DonaldSandy Trust responds to one question with his poem, Rather Thanhttps://www.planetcritical.com/p/planetary-solvency-sandy-trust

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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society's growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture's obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.

Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

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Unplug from an overshoot economy serving a growth-obsessed oligarchy. On March 15, the multitudes will begin a general strike across the U.S. – starving our profit and growth obsessed system. The commoners will reclaim power taken by the elite. Learn about Shutdown315 as Stephanie and Dave discuss, and chat with two Shutdown315 movement organizers, Chet and Bones.

We're excited to share this with you, because Shutdown315 may be a great on-ramp to post-growth living. It starts March 15, 2025, and continues. We also launch the GrowthBusters book club – listen to learn our first book selection.

And we offer a few comments about actor Kieran Culkin's appeal to his wife to give him four kids in his Oscar acceptance speech, of note because the Earth cannot meet the needs of our current 8 billion population without damaging critical life-supporting ecosystems.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

GrowthBusters Survey – https://growthbusters.org/survey

Shutdown315 website – https://shutdown315.org

Will the Wealthy Consume Less? That would be helpful – by Matt Orsaghhttps://degrowthistheanswer.substack.com/p/will-the-wealthy-consume-less

What Is #Shutdown315? Nationwide Plan to Shut Down USA for 1 Day - Newsweekhttps://www.newsweek.com/what-shutdown315-nationwide-plan-shut-down-usa-one-day-2030742

Bright Future Project from Dave's Presidential Campaign - https://brightfutureproject.us

Shutdown315 Subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/shutdown315/

Shutdown315 Substack - https://substack.com/@theshutdown315movement

Donate - https://www.growthbusters.org/donate/

Small-Family Stickers - https://youtu.be/jz_wVCPKyVY?si=0jNikVEPyTMHtFCj

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GrowthBusters Online Community - https://growthbusters.groups.io/

The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World - by Robin Wall Kimmererhttps://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/books

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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society's growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture's obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.

Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

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GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube https://youtu.be/_w0LiBsVFBo

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In the face of accelerated global warming and increasingly severe consequences of climate disruption, UN projections are outdated and understating the problem, and the U.S. is going to produce and burn fossil fuels like they're going out of business. Meanwhile Trump wants to be sure Gazans aren't using condoms to float bombs over the border, and to be sure condoms and other family planning resources are not available the world over.

On a positive note, a small town in Canada has adopted a "Limits to Growth" policy. Learn more about it in this episode.

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MENTIONED:

Global Warming Has Accelerated: Are the United Nations and the Public Well-Informed? By James Hansen et al.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00139157.2025.2434494

ReproductiveRights.Gov Vanished, So We Brought It Backhttps://www.theskimm.com/news/reproductive-rights-gov

District of Tofino Council Adopts 'Limits to Growth' Policyhttps://www.westerlynews.ca/local-news/district-of-tofino-council-adopts-limits-to-growth-policy-7701330

Is optimism required in order to alert folks to our ecological overshoot emergency? Dave and Stephanie discuss the challenge of communicating the depth and urgency of overshoot without shutting people down.

Also:

• Dave shares how he and a group of local growthbusters projected a guerilla "pop-up" billboard on New Year's Eve – attempting to provide an honest reality check, but not put revelers off (or entice police or security personnel to stop them)
• The wisdom in U.S. President Jimmy Carter's "malaise" speech
• Congestion pricing results in kids walking, riding bikes, or taking public transit to school
• China wants to goose consumption in order to keep high GDP growth
• Rampant growthism in reporting on UK economic contraction
• Incoming Trump advisors count on economic growth to balance the budget
• The enormous carbon footprint of stadium concerts and sporting events
• A new book by Robin Wall Kimmerer: The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

President Jimmy Carter's "Malaise" Speechhttps://youtu.be/sXwZSzy9Ies?si=ekyAsmL0FokRvpCc

London Saw a Surprising Benefit to Fining High-Polluting Cars: More Active Kidshttps://grist.org/cities/london-fining-polluting-cars-more-active-kids/

How the Debt Could Topple Trump's Growth Agendahttps://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/16/trump-ceos-american-debt-plan-00194362

The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World - by Robin Wall Kimmererhttps://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/books

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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society's growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture's obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.

Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

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Dave and Stephanie dig into what caused voters to ignore Donald Trump's felony convictions, indecency, incompetence, narcissism, and dishonesty – and elect him president. This includes a review of the 50-year war waged by the mega-rich and corporations to undermine civility, compassion, equity and rule of law, to elevate the free enterprise system, rob the working class and enrich themselves. The Lewis Powell Memo kicked this into high gear 50 years ago.

They also propose theories about why Dave's campaign for president failed in its mission to alert the public, media and policymakers to the ecological overshoot emergency.

Clips: Desi Lydic on The Daily Show on Comedy Central and Jimmy Kimmel on Jimmy Kimmel Live on ABC.

Mentioned in this episode: Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, Elon Musk, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, William Kristol, Andrew Egger, Dan Lashoff of World Resources Institute, American Petroleum Institute, Guttmacher Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Hoover Institution, Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation, Mercatus Center, Warren Beatty, Jane Fonda, Terry Spahr, John McCain, Reagan, Bush, Grist.

We invite your feedback, including thoughts about the recent election, and promise to share some of your comments on the next episode. Call and leave a voice message (which we may play on that episode) by dialing +1-719-402-1400. Or send an email to podcast at growthbusters dot org.

LINKS:

Desi Lydic Reacts to Trump's Election Win & the Media's Blame Game | The Daily Showhttps://youtu.be/hPHH5trgC1w?si=vww-V3qoIRpLCgmH

Jimmy Kimmel Reacts to Donald Trump Winning the Presidential Electionhttps://youtu.be/5JxELubSgJg?si=v9LRIHd5FqDZCQLf

Strong Economy Begins With Shrinking Workforce - Episode 84 of the GrowthBusters podcasthttps://www.growthbusters.org/strong-economy-shrinking-workforce/

Dave the Planet – Dave's campaign Substack columnhttps://davetheplanet.substack.com

I'm Withdrawing from the Race for U.S. President - Episode 21 of the Dave the Planet podcasthttps://davetheplanet.substack.com/p/im-withdrawing-from-the-race-for

Welcome to Overshoot: Have a Nice Day – episode of the Conversation Earth podcasthttp://www.conversationearth.org/welcome-to-overshoot-2020/

Trump Wins, Planet Loses – by Tik Root on Gristhttps://grist.org/article/the-massive-consequences-trumps-re-election-could-have-on-climate-change/

If Trump Wins, Is It Game Over? – by David Todd McCarty on Mediumhttps://medium.com/rome-magazine/if-trump-wins-is-it-game-over-26f1cc296342

The Billionaires Won: The 50-Year War on Democracy That Built Trump's Oligarchy and Killed the American Dream – by Thom Hartmannhttps://hartmannreport.com/p/the-billionaires-won-the-50-year-841

The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracyhttps://www.greenpeace.org/usa/democracy/the-lewis-powell-memo-a-corporate-blueprint-to-dominate-democracy/

Tentacles of Rage: The Republican Propaganda Mill, a Brief History – by Lewis Laphamhttps://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gned/laphamtentacles04.pdf

Dave the Planet Substack columnhttps://davetheplanet.substack.com/

Dave Gardner for Presidenthttps://davetheplanet2024.com

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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society's growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture's obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.

Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

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A new study debunks depopulation panic. For decades economists have perpetuated the false narrative, "If population growth reverses and begins to decline, the economy is doomed." This belief has so frequently been repeated by economists, politicians, business people and the public, that it is generally taken as gospel. Psychologists have characterized the phenomenon as the illusory-truth effect, or believing something to be true if it's repeated often enough, even if it is false.

For the first time in modern history, a handful of countries are witnessing actual population declines. The data is now available to separate reality from what has heretofore been baseless theory.

An October 2023 study conducted by Professors Theodore Lianos, Anastasia Pseiridis and Nicholas Tsounis, published in Humanities and Social Sciences Communications and featured on Nature.com examined volumes of economic data of twenty countries experiencing population declines. To their surprise, virtually every country with a contracting population enjoyed reduced unemployment, increased wages, and a larger real GDP per capita!

Guest-host Terry Spahr, Executive Director of Earth Overshoot, speaks with the study's authors to illuminate their findings that dispel the firmly entrenched false notion that endless growth is the only path to economic salvation.

Guests:

Theodore Lianos Professor, Athens University of Economics and Business

Anastasia PseiridisAssistant Professor of Economics, Department of Economics and Regional DevelopmentPanteion University

Regular co-hosts Dave Gardner and Stephanie Gardner are taking a break from the podcast while Dave runs for U.S. President this year. If you would like to guest-host a podcast, email us with details of the episode you would like to produce and host.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Declining Population and GDP Growthhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-02223-7

Summary published at The Overpopulation Projecthttps://overpopulation-project.com/declining-population-and-gdp-growth/

Earth Overshoothttps://www.earthovershoot.org/

Dave Gardner's Campaign https://davetheplanet2024.com

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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

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We made it VERY clear that Musk's worries about population collapse are ill-founded, and that attracted thousands more listeners than usual to our podcast. How did that happen? What kind of comments did we get? Find out in this episode. And get important truths about overshoot and overpopulation.

Plus, learn how we'll give YOU the mic for an episode of the GrowthBusters podcast. We explain the long wait for this episode, and share our offer to listeners to "adopt" a future episode to discuss an aspect of limits to growth important to you.

If you do want to guest-host an episode, email us your proposal. Include a paragraph or two about you, and a paragraph or two about your proposed topic, guest, approach, etc.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Eight Billion is Too Many: Don't be a Twit About Overpopulation (Episode 73 of the GrowthBusters podcast)https://www.growthbusters.org/8-billion-is-too-many/

This episode on YouTube (so you can read the comments)https://youtu.be/cKPnJU59tHw?si=rmkxk4mU9YT3d5G7

Paul Ehrlich on The Limits to Growth (Episode 70 of the GrowthBusters podcast)https://www.growthbusters.org/ehrlich-limits-to-growth/

GrowthBusters Podcast YouTube channelhttps://youtube.com/@growthbusterspodcast

Dave the Planet 2024 (Dave Gardner's campaign for U.S. President)https://davetheplanet2024.com

GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – Dave's 2011 documentary, now available free on YouTubehttps://growthbustersmovie.org

Episode graphic includes a photo of Elon Musk by Steve Jurvetson, CC BY 2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0>, via Wikimedia Commons. We turned him on his side and added the fire.

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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society's growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture's obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.

Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

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The Michigan Governor is apparently unaware that the world, the U.S. and even Michigan are overpopulated. Michigan population has been growing a little too slowly for her taste, so Whitmer has appointed a Chief Growth Officer and formed the Growing Michigan Together Council. Not surprisingly, her bottom line is to "spur economic growth."

In an episode you should share with YOUR governor, you'll get the details and find out why this news puts "a bee in Dave's bonnet," plus news about some outstanding new studies, a wonderful commentary in Newsweek, a crazy podcast you'll like, and a possible candidate for U.S. President.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

A Just World on a Safe Planet: First Study Quantifying Earth System Boundaries https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/news/latest-news/a-just-world-on-a-safe-planet-first-study-quantifying-earth-system-boundaries

Gov. Whitmer Appoints Michigan's First-Ever Chief Growth Officer (news release) https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/news/press-releases/2023/06/01/whitmer-appoints-michigans-first_ever-chief-growth-officer

Gov. Whitmer Establishes the 'Growing Michigan Together Council' to Focus on Population Growth, Building a Brighter Future for Michigan (news release) https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/news/press-releases/2023/06/01/whitmer-establishes-the-growing-michigan-together-council-to-focus-on-population-growth

Gretchen Whitmer Keynote Address at Mackinac Policy Conference https://youtu.be/jTfnZbSZRpM

Arizona Announces Limits on Construction in Phoenix Area as Groundwater Disappears https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/01/us/arizona-phoenix-groundwater-limits-development-climate/index.html

Mass Immigration Experiment Gives Canada an Edge in Global Race For Labor https://economictimes.indiatimes.com//nri/work/mass-immigration-experiment-gives-canada-an-edge-in-global-race-for-labor/articleshow/101100076.cms

Saying Out Loud What Others Won't Even Whisper About Climate Change – by Kirsten Stade https://www.newsweek.com/saying-out-loud-what-others-wont-even-whisper-about-climate-change-opinion-1806109

Population Growth is the Main Driver of Increased Carbon Emissions, Study Finds https://phys.org/news/2023-04-population-growth-main-driver-carbon.html

Crazy Town podcast – Post Carbon Institute https://www.resilience.org/crazy-town-podcast/

Learn more about possible presidential campaign https://davetheplanet2024.wixsite.com/dave-the-planet

Shop and Sell Your Clothes Sustainably With These 13 Buyback and Resale Programs https://www.ecowatch.com/clothes-buyback-resale-programs.html

Recycle or Purchase Used Levi's Jeans https://www.secondhand.levi.com/trade-in

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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society's growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture's obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.

Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared "could be the most important film ever made." Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.

Join the GrowthBusters online community https://growthbusters.groups.io/

GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube https://youtu.be/_w0LiBsVFBo

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Are many vegans self-righteous, overbearing and insufferable in their efforts to recruit us? Would you believe "overpopulation" is still a taboo word? Or that human population numbers are still an "off-limits" topic at some conferences? This episode continues the conversation we began in episode 79 with five smart people: Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance Sarah Bexell, director of humane education at the Institute for Human Animal Connection at University of Denver Paul Sutton, professor of geography & the environment at DU Stephanie Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast Dave Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Population Balance https://populationbalance.org

Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism - by Kirsten Stade https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/

Pro-Birth Policies Are Killing Us – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197 Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child (Course at Antioch University taught by Nandita Bajaj) https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course Backpedalling on Overpopulation – by Rory Cockshaw https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/backpedalling-on-overpopulation Trains, Plants and Condoms: How to Save the Planet in 3 Simple Steps – by Rory Cockshaw https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/trains-plants-and-condoms Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World – by Anand Giridharadas https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37506348 The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market – by Dr. Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57693264 How Free-Market Fundamentalism Fuels Overpopulation Denialism & Undermines Democracy – Episode of The Overpopulation Podcast with Naomi Oreskes https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts/naomi-oreskes President Condemns 'Obsession' With Economic Growth Irish President Michael D Higgins speaks out against growth https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/president-condemns-obsession-with-economic-growth/ Welcome To MAGA World: Trump Wants 'Freedom Cities' Where Cars Can Fly, Parents Get 'BONUSES' for Having Babies and Huge Monuments are Built to 'True American Heroes' in 'Quantum Leap' Vision for the Future https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818381/Trumps-2024-pitch-New-cities-flying-cars-babies.html

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Students in a DU ecological economics class discuss their biggest concerns and how our society might overcome them. Overshoot, polarization, the American Dream, politics, selfish individualism, and the capitalism growth imperative are among the topics explored – as GrowthBuster Dave Gardner sits down with leaders of tomorrow. Dave is joined by Professor Paul Sutton at the University of Denver and students Lilia Davis, Julia Gainey, Cassienne Levan, Nathan Cox, Mikey Ford, Geordie Shonk, Elsa Krantz, and Alexandra Van de Water. Surprisingly, all the students seem to have a clear picture of how deadly serious our overshoot predicament is, but - just as surprisingly - optimism wasn't found wanting. MENTIONED: GrowthBusters Campus Tour https://www.growthbusters.org/campus-tour/ What Do College Students Think Their Future Holds? – Episode 65 of the GrowthBusters podcast https://www.growthbusters.org/college-students-think/ Overshoot: World's Best Introduction – Episode 57 of the GrowthBusters podcast https://www.growthbusters.org/overshoot-worlds-best-introduction/ G7 Clean Energy Economy Action Plan - May 20, 2023 Statement https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/20/g7-clean-energy-economy-action-plan/