No More Perfect Podcast with Jill Savage

Moving from Jill 1.0 to Jill 2.0 | Episode 240


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Dear Mark & Jill,

I listen to your podcast every week and I love it. It seems like when you are talking together, we hear a lot more about what Mark did wrong before and during your marriage crisis. I identify more with Jill’s personality before your marriage crisis. I would love to hear more about “Jill 1.0” when you are discussing problems in your marriage. What were some of the things you (Jill) did during that time that you felt did not help the situation, and how did you correct them to become Jill 2.0?

This was an email we got from a listener—and it sparked an hour-long conversation between Mark and I! It was such a good question that we decided to answer their email in this episode of the podcast.

We often talk openly about our marriage crisis, Mark’s infidelity, and how I contributed to the dysfunction in our marriage before we became what we affectionately refer to as Mark & Jill 2.0.

For this conversation, we want to examine Jill 1.0 more closely—not to blame her for what happened, but to honestly consider the role she played in our marriage crisis.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:

  • The 6 dysfunctions Jill brought into our marriage
  • What the “strong woman, silent man cycle” looks like
  • The characteristics of an “avoider”
  • And more!

It was enlightening for Mark and I to examine some of my behaviors during the first half of our marriage and how they impacted our relationship. I hope this can be a helpful resource for you, especially if you relate to or have a similar personality to mine.

Find resources mentioned and more in the show notes: jillsavage.org/old-version-jill-240

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Check out our other resources:

  • Mark and Jill’s Marriage Story
  • Marriage Coaching
  • Marriage 2.0 Intensives
  • Speaking Schedule
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  • Online Courses
  • Books

Marriage Resources:

  • Infidelity Recovery
  • For Happy Marriages
  • For Hurting Marriages
  • For Marriages Where You’re the Only One Wanting to Get Help

Mom Resources:

  • New/Preschool Moms
  • Moms with Gradeschoolers
  • Moms with Teens and Tweens
  • Moms with Kids Who Are Launching
  • Empty Nest...
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