The Peterman Pod

Mozilla Firefox CTO on Browser War Stories and the Path to Distinguished Engineer


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Bobby Holley went from an intern to the CTO of Mozilla Firefox. I asked him about everything he learned in that process. We cover his full career including some interesting stories on living through the browser wars and advice on career growth.


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โ€ข Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/mozilla-firefox-cto-on-browser-war

โ€ข Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0MX9PyeCzDhdlyRv6slwIX

โ€ข Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835


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โ€ข NYT article link: https://www.livemint.com/Industry/q2EjgGX6d5Ouwec479WSqM/For-Mozilla-Google-group-hugs-get-tricky.html

โ€ข Mozilla VP twitter thread: https://www.computerworld.com/article/1722183/former-mozilla-exec-alleges-google-torpedoed-firefox-with-oops-excuses.html

โ€ข Internal memo on writing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1518xKjijjEWHQb6wZjAWJrUN8liZGGI9v5pRFr9eFHo/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.1gfr5hva69qx


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00:00:00 - Intro

00:00:57 - Starting at Mozilla

00:04:57 - Browser wars history

00:10:55 - Google relationship changing

00:16:11 - Why work for free

00:19:02 - Projects that drove his career

00:33:12 - No performance reviews

00:34:42 - Rust adoption

00:43:33 - Career progression

00:47:54 - Should you focus on promos

00:57:14 - Distinguished promo rejection

01:00:56 - Examples of distinguished engs

01:10:54 - Advice for aspiring distinguished engs

01:14:40 - AI browser wars

01:26:32 - Biggest technical regret

01:29:11 - Book that impacted his career most

01:32:09 - Advice for his younger self


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โ€ข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbyholley

โ€ข X/Twitter: https://x.com/bhology


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