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  • The Country Star the Internet Can’t Ignore w/ Bryan Andrews

    Emerging country artist Brian Andrews shares his journey as a DIY musician from a small town in Missouri to becoming a rising voice in both music and sociopolitical conversations. He opens up about how his upbringing instilled a strong sense of speaking out for what he believes in, which has become a defining aspect of his brand. Brian discusses the interplay between his music and political content, explaining how the passion behind his messages shapes both his songwriting and online presence. He reflects on the risks and rewards of being outspoken in a genre traditionally associated with conservative values, emphasizing the importance of empathy, nuance, and authenticity in today’s divided cultural landscape. Brian also details his creative and content strategies, the support he's received from his label, and the significance of his upcoming politically charged single, “The Older I Get,” which he hopes will connect with audiences on a human level during a pivotal time in society.

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    52 min
  • How Often Should Musicians Post Each Week?

    In this episode of "My Point Four Cents," the hosts delve into the complexities surrounding music streaming platforms, particularly Spotify, and how they can be exploited through scams such as improper artist tagging and bot-driven attacks. They explore how fraudulent actors can hijack artist profiles, the lack of effective authentication systems, and the failure of distributors to safeguard creators, especially indie artists. The discussion also highlights how established artists enjoy support that many rising musicians lack, and how tools for control and correction are largely inaccessible to those without major backing. The team also discusses broader industry dynamics, platform dominance, the metrics that dictate an artist’s opportunities, and the power dynamics between streaming services, record labels, and independent musicians. Further into the episode, there's a candid interview with rising country artist Brian Andrews, who integrates political and social commentary into his music and online presence. He shares insights into blending activism and authenticity with content strategy in a digital-era music career. The conversation is as much about the broken systems in digital music distribution as it is about individuality, resilience, and the responsibility of artists to speak out.

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    1 hr 13 min
  • Is The Music Business Cooked? w/ Ryan Shuck

    Hosts Matt Bacon, Jesse Caden, and Andrew Southworth dive into the challenges modern musicians face with streaming platforms, specifically addressing the controversial removal of artist Karra’s album from Spotify due to alleged artificial streaming. They analyze her claim of spending $100,000 on an album that earned only $1,200 from streaming, highlighting the lack of a marketing budget and broader issues among self-serve distribution platforms. The conversation further explores the broader digital music landscape, the frustrating absence of effective customer service from major distributors, and the importance of building dedicated fan communities. Later in the episode, special guest Ryan Shuck (known for his work with Orgy, Dead by Sunrise, and Julian-K) joins the podcast to discuss his band's innovative crowdfunding strategy, the importance of fan relationships, scarcity marketing, and direct-to-fan engagement through platforms like Shopify and Patreon. The episode wraps with reflections on shifts in the industry, artist sustainability, and critiques of viral reactions to music industry news.

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    1 hr 21 min
  • How To Get Booked At Venues That Build Fanbases w/ Matt Molnar

    Jesse Cannon welcomes his longtime friend Matthew Molnar—a true veteran of the music world with an impressive, decades-spanning resume that includes being a musician, record producer, manager, and concert booker. The conversation explores Matt’s deep roots in the DIY and punk scenes, his work booking shows at iconic New York venues Market Hotel and Trans-Pecos, and his passion for supporting rising talent and building local music communities. They dive into topics like the evolution of shoegaze, the importance of self-promotion, the challenges new artists face breaking into the scene, and the fine art of helping bands develop their sound without losing their identity. Filled with reflections on New York's music history, witty anecdotes, and critical insights into what makes a band truly stand out, this rich and sprawling discussion offers invaluable wisdom for anyone looking to navigate the modern music industry.


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    1 hr 8 min
  • Your Release Plan Might Be Broken (Waterfalls, Trigger Cities & Spotify Countdowns)

    Jesse Cannon, Matt Bacon, Andrew Southworth, and Dustin Boyer are joined by special guest Matthew Molnar, a longtime music industry insider who currently books for Brooklyn venues Market Hotel and Trans-Pecos. The group dives into a spirited discussion about the ongoing debate surrounding waterfall release strategies in music marketing, questioning a viral social media claim that such methods are now ineffective. They dissect the data behind Spotify’s algorithm and popularity score, with experts like Glenn McDonald and Luke Mansell weighing in to debunk misinformation. The episode also explores techniques for promoting music releases, the pros and cons of pre-saves and countdown pages, and strategies for targeting international markets through advertising. Later, Molnar shares his journey through the industry and explains how independent artists can get booked at top venues by being an active part of the scene and delivering unique, community-oriented performances. Throughout, the hosts emphasize the importance of critical thinking, transparency, and data-driven decision-making in a rapidly evolving music landscape.

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    1 hr 16 min
  • Indie Artists’ Best-Kept Secret w/ Brian Zisook of Audiomack

    Brian Zisook, co-founder of AudioMack, shares the origin, mission, and evolution of the music streaming platform. He discusses how AudioMack carved out a niche as a discovery-focused service initially rooted in hip hop and now with a major presence across Africa, Latin America, and multicultural youth markets worldwide. By providing free tools and empowering independent artists through human curation, education, and innovative features like geo-targeted playlists and in-app messaging, AudioMack has democratized music access globally. Brian also tackles broader themes around music marketing, fan engagement, the importance of community and regional identity in music, and the current shortcomings in artist management and industry practices—all while offering thoughtful insight and practical advice for creators navigating today’s music landscape.


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    00:00 - Introducing Brian Zisook from Audiomack

    00:22 - What Is Audiomack?

    01:02 - The Genesis of Audiomack in 2012

    02:17 - Early Days and DJBooth Crossover

    02:43 - Shaping a Platform for Independent Artists

    03:43 - Audiomack’s Focus on Hip-Hop and Global Growth

    05:19 - Why Africa Chose Audiomack

    07:27 - Building Communities Through Localization

    09:39 - Regional Music Curation in the U.S.

    10:54 - Global Misconceptions About African Music

    13:01 - Where Audiomack Fits in the Artist Marketing Mix

    14:53 - Investing in Human Curation

    16:49 - The Audiomack Tastemaker Program

    20:10 - Solving Artist Discovery and Engagement Problems

    22:38 - The Future of Audiomack and Global Expansion

    25:32 - Audiomack vs Full-Catalog Streaming Giants

    27:39 - Favorite Emerging Music Marketing Tactics

    30:12 - The Power of Fan Clubs and Direct Artist Access

    36:13 - Marketing Advice for Artists in Emerging Markets

    38:42 -

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    50 min
  • Is TikTok, Reels or Shorts Better For Music Promotion?

    In this episode of “My Point Four Cents,” the hosts—Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Andrew Southworth, and Matt Bacon—engage in a detailed conversation on music marketing and platform strategies, featuring special guest Brian Zisook, co-founder and EVP of AudioMack. The discussion dives into platform trends, contrasting how artists often perform differently across TikTok, Instagram Reels, and YouTube Shorts due to algorithmic preferences, content suitability, and user behavior. They explore the nuances of platform-native content, engagement impact, the significance of “profile scores,” and tactics like the $1.80 comment strategy for growth. Brian Zisook provides an in-depth overview of AudioMack’s unique position in music streaming, its international growth—particularly across Africa and the diaspora—and the platform’s focus on discovery, curation, and accessibility for independent artists. They also tackle how platforms like Bandsintown help artists promote tours through free and paid tools. The episode blends real-world examples with strategic advice, emphasizing experimentation, audience alignment, and adapting to varied digital environments.

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    1 hr 7 min
  • The Secret That Got Him 130 Million Streams!

    My .4 Cents host Andrew sits down with Chris Greenwood, also known as the artist "Manafest", to dive deep into his journey as an independent musician and music entrepreneur. Chris shares his evolution from touring artist to Spotify success, discussing his wins in sync licensing, including a six-figure Olympics placement, and the shift from active to passive income through streaming. He opens up about the strategic use of Facebook ads, merch funnels, and catalog sales to sustain a thriving music business. The conversation also explores the pros and cons of the modern music industry, offering insights for up-and-coming artists on building a sustainable career, maximizing revenue streams, and avoiding common pitfalls. Whether navigating streaming platforms or leveraging digital marketing, Chris provides a wealth of real-world lessons based on his experience as both a successful artist and a mentor through his Smart Music Business platform.


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    50 min
  • How Many Streams It Takes For Spotify To Promote Your Music

    This episode of "My Point Four Cents" features a deep dive into the Spotify algorithm with musical artist and educator Chris Greenwood, also known as Manafest. Hosts Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, and Andrew Southworth explore the metrics behind Spotify's Popularity Index and share insights from a data-driven study that analyzed the streaming behavior of hundreds of artists. Andrew explains findings from their research, revealing surprisingly simple correlations between streams and algorithmic playlist placements such as Release Radar and Discover Weekly. The conversation also covers artist development strategies, sync licensing, the economics of digital and physical music sales, and the realities of modern streaming income. Greenwood shares his journey from major label deals to independent success, including stories of high-value sync placements and how he leveraged digital marketing and sales funnels to sustain a thriving music career.


    Watch Andrew's video on the Spotify Algorithm here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w3hk2KtKXo&t=603s

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    1 hr 7 min
  • Will "Personality Content" Kill Your Music's Growth?

    Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, and Dustin Boyer delve into the complex dynamics of “personality content” in the evolving world of music marketing. They engage in a candid roundtable discussion on how artists balance showcasing their music with sharing personal, often unrelated content online, and explore the risks and rewards of merging personality and artistry on platforms like TikTok and Instagram. The episode also features a deep-dive interview with James Rhodes, President and CEO of independent label FiXT Music, who discusses their mission to empower artists through fair 50/50 deals, their successes in sync licensing, and building sustainable, long-term careers for niche acts in rock and electronic genres. The conversation touches on trends in artist-label relationships, predatory deals, the value of streaming services like Spotify, and the challenges of the live music economy, particularly in major cities like New York.

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    1 hr 28 min

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This is what musicians need to know about the music business today. Every Tuesday, music marketers Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Andrew Southworth break down what's changed in music…

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