Mike Lindell made a fortune with My Pillow, but he’s better known these days for his obsessive quest to prove fraud in the 2020 election. Should that be keeping the rest of us up at night? Anne Applebaum is a staff writer for The Atlantic and a fellow at SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University. She joins host Krys Boyd to talk about spending time with Lindell to talk through his claims – and about how his constant presence in the media helps to legitimize those claims with many Americans. Her recent article in The Atlantic is headlined “The MyPillow Guy Really Could Destroy Democracy.”