Nature vs Narcissism

*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.

January 8, 1987 - 33 years ago today; a 28-year-old woman by the name of Jeanne Durkin lost her life. She was stabbed to death & with over 70 stab wounds...she was considered the most brutal death of the Frankford Slasher's 7-9 victims.
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In our August 30, 2019 episode - Scott joins Heather to share the research he found on this case. What he found is quite disturbing. You can listen to that episode here: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/18914589

In this episode; Heather is joined again by Scott but also by Jeanne Durkin's granddaughter, Kate! She shares some family information with us as well as her theories on the case. You can follow her on Instagram via the handle @katelynncarr_

*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.

FIRST OFF; HAPPY FUCKING BIRTHDAY TO BRITTANY!!! I love you so much, lady! I am so happy to have you in my life and so lucky to have met you when I did!
Thank you so much for all of your research and help on this episode!
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In this episode, Heather is joined by the awesome Brittany to discuss two brothers who ended up becoming serial killers...BUT at different times in their lives.
During their childhood years, the brothers were pretty close to one another. Later in life (I believe while in jail) Danny was quoted saying that Larry was quote "the only companion I had most of my life."
The events began in 1964 when 19-year-old Larry killed his first victim. He ended up confessing to five murders in total...but tried for just one. He then received a second trial but turned it down and decided to go with his original sentence of life in prison.
Danny, on the other hand, made headlines during Larry's retrial when he was charged with a string of murders in 1973.
There were many differences between their victims, their MOs, and potentially their reasons for killing.
The Ranes brothers are not discussed nearly enough in the true crime world.


Sources
https://www.kalamazoocity.org/
https://www.discoverkalamazoo.com/
https://www.kalcounty.com/
http://www.city-data.com/city/Kalamazoo-Michigan.html
https://www.kalamazoomi.com/hisf.htm
http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/kalamazoo-mi-population/
https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/mi/kalamazoo/crime-rate-statistics
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/kalamazoo/crime
https://www.areavibes.com/kalamazoo-mi/crime/
https://listverse.com/2014/04/10/10-cases-of-sibling-serial-killers/
https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2016/12/15/serial-killers-brothers-danny-and-larry-ranes-separately-became-serial-killers-did-not-kill-together/
https://michigansup.fandom.com/wiki/Larry_and_Danny_Ranes
https://www.leagle.com/decision/1971619385mich2341605
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201606/sibling-rivals-and-murder-games
https://books.google.com/books?id=qbppiQQw4DkC&pg=PA134&lpg=PA134&dq=monk+steppenwolf&source=bl&ots=r6allglQaw&sig=WK9Bv5oFnOFsE9wWvw6X8D4pX-M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSq_7a3vbQAhVX1mMKHcxrDkYQ6AEIVDAL#v=onepage&q=monk%20steppenwolf&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=DwNVbOcTncwC&pg=PA220&lpg=PA220&dq=monk+steppenwolf&source=bl&ots=B2CAzpVu5F&sig=e-bgnmzlHqLBGDGI4o_YoJk-YR8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSq_7a3vbQAhVX1mMKHcxrDkYQ6AEIVzAM#v=onepage&q=monk%20steppenwolf&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=GsN2CQAAQBAJ&pg=PT101&lpg=PT101&dq=larry+and+danny+ranes&source=bl&ots=01Th7uzvaa&sig=1flN2JkhohWFSn7YSzic8VUOQbQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwihzp7B-_bQAhVdVWMKHW68CiI4ChDoAQgzMAU#v=onepage&q=larry%20and%20danny%20ranes&f=false

This is a trailer for Scene of the Crime, Season One: Delphi. This is a preview of what you can expect during the 7 episode season, taking an in-depth look into the unsolved 2017 double murder of teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams in Delphi, Indiana. Mike Morford of Criminology has teamed up with Libby's sister Kelsi to produce this podcast. Throughout the season you will hear exclusive interviews with family members of the victims as they recount the events of that tragic day and how it has affected their lives since. You will also hear some of their theories regarding the killer as well as interviews with law enforcement on the case.


Scene of the Crime, Season 1 Episode 2 Premieres January 2nd, 2020. Subscribe now so that you don't miss an episode. Find them on Twitter with the handle @SceneOfCrimePod

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On Saturday, Dec 7th, we celebrated a Patron's birthday! As part of the celebration, Trisha came to the studio and recorded for a couple of hours about life, crime, family members who are criminals and her own podcast! This is part one of two and we talked for about 4 hours in total...we could have talked for about 10 hours probably! We hope you enjoy these episodes and check out her podcast:
The Rippled Effect Podcast

On Saturday, Dec 7th, we celebrated a Patron's birthday! As part of the celebration, Trisha came to the studio and recorded for a couple of hours about life, crime, family members who are criminals and her own podcast! This is part one of two and we talked for about 4 hours in total...we could have talked for about 10 hours probably! We hope you enjoy these episodes and check out her podcast:
The Rippled Effect Podcast

*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.

In May 1970, William "Junior" Pierce was paroled from the Georgia state prison at Reidsville, despite a report from staff psychiatrists contending that he "may be dangerous to himself and others." The parole board chose to ignore that report, and Pierce claimed his first victim a month later, killing at least nine persons before his arrest, on March 8, 1971.
Heather is joined by Bad in the Boondocks Podcast for another South Carolina killer!

Sources
Michael Newton - An Encyclopedia of Modern Serial Killers - Hunting Humans
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/a28759786/william-junior-pierce-mindhunter-true-story/
https://murderpedia.org/male.P/p/pierce-william.htm
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/08/240823/who-is-real-william-junior-pierce-from-mindhunter
https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a28759373/who-is-william-junior-pierce/
https://www.bustle.com/p/photos-of-the-real-william-pierce-show-mindhunter-season-2-got-all-the-details-right-18663622
Crimelibrary.com

*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.


HAPPY 29th BIRTHDAY KIMBO!!!!

I am so pleased to share this episode with you and everyone else! I went back through and grabbed clips from all of the episodes that you were on and I was laughing so hard putting this together!

Throughout the episode, you will hear some of our favorite songs from growing up as well as some other fun Easter eggs, if you will! Our listeners will hear where #DontCallTheCops came from as well as the origin of #BrainBowls. And for some of our dedicated fans…you’ll get an awesome dose of wheeze laughing!

Kim; I hope that you have the best birthday and enjoy every day from here on out. Love you, little sis!

Everyone: WISH HER A HAPPY BIRTHDAY and check out her art page on Instagram: @wolfpenart

*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.

In this episode, Part 2 of the Indianapolis, Indiana episodes, Heather is joined by Justin from Mysterious Circumstances to discuss Howard Arthur Allen. He was born in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1949 and is currently sitting in prison, serving his sentence. He was originally sentenced to death on June 11, 1988 but that sentence was later commuted to life in prison. He murdered at least three elderly women (Opal Cooper, 85 / Laverne Hale, 87 / Ernestine Griffin, 73), severely beat another woman, and committed arson on an elderly man’s home. All of his crimes had an underlying factor of burglary. Police suspect that there may be as many as 11 more victims…but have been unable to prove that.

This episode is filled with speculation as there isn’t a lot known about his childhood. Additionally, this episode contains touchy subject matter (the death penalty debate) and a glimpse into several other Indiana crimes as well as issues within the justice system in Indiana. You’ve been warned.


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*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.

In this episode, Heather is joined by Danielle from Hoosier Homicide to discuss Herbert Baumeister. He was born in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1947 and died after a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head in 1996. He was on the run from police who were searching his 18-acre farm for bodies of his victims – of which they found at least 11. Now, it is debated as to whether or not he killed more than 11 and to this day, he is not technically considered a confirmed serial killer as police were never able to prove it AND he killed himself before being apprehended. His victim type was young homosexual men whom he would pick up from gay bars and take to his mansion where he would have sex with them (often using auto erotic asphyxiation to pleasure himself) and then (presumably) kill and dispose of their bodies.


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Our theme music was created and customized by Nico Vettese of We Talk of Dreams.  You can follow him on IG (@wetalkofdreams)  and Twitter (@WeTalkofDreams). 
Follow us on IG: @naturevsnarcissism
Follow us on Twitter: @NvsNpodcast
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*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved.

In this HALLOWEEN Bonus episode, Heather is joined by the father/son duo Stan and Jeru from Bad in the Boondocks! You will hear about four South Carolina urban legends (three-eyed man, the legend of Julia Legare, the lizard man, and the haunted barnyard crypt) and one Ohio urban legend (Loveland Frogman).

We really hope you enjoyed this mashup!

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