Nature vs Narcissism

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In this episode, Heather is joined by the one and only Scott Fuller to discuss a serial killer from Frankford, Philadelphia. He is known as the Frankford Slasher and is believed to have killed 8-9 people between the years of 1985 and 1990. Leonard Christopher was apprehended for the murder of 46-year-old Carol Dowd in 1990 and police pegged him as the slasher. However, they were unable to confirm that he was indeed the slasher as he was behind bars when another victim was killed. Another man who was questioned in the cases, disappeared later. That man AND Christopher Leonard have both since passed away. Now, in 2019, city investigators are looking at new DNA evidence.

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Check out Scott’s other projects too: Frozen Truth, Status Pending, Dead & Gone in Wyoming
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In this episode, Heather is joined by Brittany to discuss a serial killer/serial stabber from her home state of Michigan! He committed most of his murders in Flint, MI but also stabbed multiple victims in multiple other states. Elias Abuelazam is an Israeli convicted murderer who is also known as the “Flint Serial Killer” and “The Serial Slasher”. It is believed that he had a total of 5 murder victims and upwards of 18 stabbing victims, who luckily made it out alive. His murders are said to have occurred between March od 2009 and August of 2010. He was eventually apprehended in August of 2010 after trying to flee back to Israel from Atlanta, GA. He was sentenced to like imprisonment without the possibility of parole in Michigan on June 25, 2012, but he maintained his innocence and had an interesting defense argument at trial.
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In this episode, Heather and Rachelle discuss another female serial killer! Her nickname was La Luchadora...which means “the fighter”.  Why, you ask? Well, in Mexico, professional wrestling is a popular form of entertainment.  But it’s a bit different than one might expect by the name...in Mexico, professional wrestling aka Lucha Libre has a certain sense of pageantry.  Luchadores (aka wrestlers), often wear colorful masks as they perform different acrobatic leaps off the ropes to grapple with their opponents. But Juana Barraza had a more sinister side to her.

She lived somewhat of a double life.  Her day consisted of working as a popcorn vendor and sometimes a luchadora at a wrestling venue in Mexico City.  She was described as being stocky and strong. Barraza took to the ring as The Lady of Silence as she competed in the amateur circuit.  By night, she was a completely different person - known as Mataviejitas, or “little old lady killer.” She may have killed up to 50 woman who were all over the age of 60! She is serving a sentence of 759 years in a Mexican prison…where she is actually living a decent life; to hear her tell it!


Promo: The Dark Divide

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In this episode, Heather is joined by her sister Kim again; to discuss a killer from Eugene, Oregon who is STILL UNIDENTIFIED. With the new technology being used today (Parabon Nano Labs); police in Oregon have been able to link three cold case homicides to the same unknown suspect. What we do know is that the suspect is a MALE. The three victims are 62-year-old Gladys May Hensley (murdered in June of 1986), 33-year-old Janice Marie Dickinson (murdered in June of 1986), and 73-year-old Geraline Spencer Toohey (murdered in February of 1988). In this episode, you’ll learn what Parabon Nano Labs is doing to help solve cold cases and what Snapshot Phenotyping is. You’ll also hear an excerpt from Chapter 6 of Status Pending Podcast where this technology is being used in an unsolved case from 2004.


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Listen to Chapter 6 of Status Pending to hear the unsolved case of Brittany Phillips

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In this episode, Heather and Rachelle travel to Dakota Country/Dakota Territory, WY; way back in 1868, to discuss a woman who may or may not have been the murderer of at least 22 men.  This case is different from previous episodes as we aren’t 100% sure whether or not the details are based on factual information. Even though we found a decent amount of information, there is debate about the accuracy of the events. If true though, this B**** was manipulative and had her daddy wrapped so far around her finger that he worked with her in robbing and disposing of the bodies.   




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Heather & Rachelle discuss their reactions to the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival.  We also share some announcements!Our theme music was created and customized by Nico Vettese of We Talk of Dreams.  You can follow him on IG (@wetalkofdreams)  and Twitter (@WeTalkofDreams). Follow us on IG: @naturevsnarcissismFollow us on Twitter: @NvsNpodcastLike us on Facebook: @naturevsnarcissismJoin our discussion group: nature vs narcissism discussion groupSupport us on Patreon for cool perks and goodies for $1: https://www.patreon.com/NVNpodcastDonate one time via PayPal: [email protected].

Episode 3: Fulton County, Ohio. Established in 1850.  We are delving into the case of James Worley. James Worley was convicted and sentenced to death for the 2016 murder of Sierah Joughin.  In addition, he was sentenced to over twenty years in prison for the kidnapping, assault and other related charges. 
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Episode 2: Washington County, Ohio. Established in 1788.  We are delving into the case of Noal Quattlebaum. Noal Quattlebaum strangled his girlfriend to death in 2008. Quattlebaum was arrested after investigators found her body bound and wrapped in a blanket at their house.  He pleaded guilty to her murder and was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison. Quattlebaum committed suicide in prison in 2013.
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The music used in this episode is by Jahzzar and is called Thin Line.  You can listen to/download this track via http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jahzzar/Crime_Scene/Thin_Line  Most of our sources are mentioned in the episode.  For those that are not, you can email us at [email protected]

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The music used in this episode is by Jahzzar and is called Thin Line.  You can listen to/download this track via http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jahzzar/Crime_Scene/Thin_Line