Odette Barry is one of those people that you just want to learn from. She’s a publicist, PR mentor, and the founder of PR agency Odette & Co, and she’s found her niche and passion in amplifying the voices of purpose-driven leaders.

But while her business and place within it might look crystal clear now, it wasn’t always the case. She became a mum at 22, and at the time, she felt as though she didn’t have any goals or ambitions for herself outside of motherhood. 

Here, she tells us all about this journey, including the dark times she’s had to overcome and why sometimes the hardest bits are always followed by great change; she likens it to that transition phase, the “I can’t do it” stage of birth. In amongst it all, we also talk raising teenagers, navigating perimenopause, why she’s trying to work less, and navigating using AI in business while facing the reality of its impact on climate collapse.

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