“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

Navigating the Real Power Structures at Your Company


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In this episode of HR Heretics, Kelli and Nolan sit down with Andrew Bartlow, a multi time VP of HR and co-founder of People Leader Accelerator. Andrew shares his extensive career from startups to Fortune 100 companies, the distinct challenges at each company stage across VC-backed startups and public companies, and the danger of being relegated to your HR island.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:06) Andrew's career journey

(02:49) Differences between company types

(06:57) Power structures and company culture

(12:26) Talent assessment in private equity

(17:47) Sponsors: Metaview | Workvivo

(20:39) Private equity misconceptions

(28:20) Sponsors: Attio | Warp

(30:11) Changing reputation of private equity

(33:11) CEO and Chief People Officer relationship

(37:07) Assessing CEO's expectations

(39:00) Concept of HR island

(41:34) Engagement metrics: A critical view

(44:58) Challenges in HR leadership

(46:13) Engagement surveys: Pros and cons

(54:56) Exec comp debate

(01:00:51) Wrap



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