Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio are back for another Butcher's Market OG Live. NC State's "Destination Charlotte 2025" initiative is somehow NOT over after another ACC road loss. But do Wolfpack fans even care at this point? Carolina Hurricanes head coach Rod Brind'Amour discusses their current slump and shares his conversations with Mikko Rantanen about adjusting to life after a massive trade. In the Lightning Round, the guys hit the current battle over College Football Playoff formats and money, NFL rules changes, and more.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - NC State still hungover

07:00 - OG Sports Phone

21:00 - Housekeeping

27:30 - Aho writes to Canes fans

34:30 - Brind'Amour interview

47:00 - Dundon worst NFL owner?

57:00 - CFP format battle

1:02:00 - Lightning Round

1:20:00 - Hey Joe

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