There's chat about some results (01:44), and then Ryan and Musa move on to the main topic, the men's Champions League—as well as the Europa and Conference Leagues—reforming for this season (06:46). They run through the new league formats, their initial thoughts about the changes and what it might mean going forward, with huge numbers of games and reports of player fatigue ahead of a season that will also see the new Club World Cup take place next summer. They ask (yet again) whether there is too much football, whether this is what fans actually want and whether there is another way to balance commercial and sporting interests—or whether even more football is the new normal.

Hosts: Ryan Hunn and Musa Okwonga

Producer: Ryan Hunn

Additional Production: Jonathan Fisher and Alex Adey

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