In this episode we speak with Stephen Jenkinson. Stephen is a teacher, author, storyteller, spiritual activist, farmer and founder of the Orphan Wisdom School. He has written several books, including Die Wise: A Manifesto For Sanity and Soul, and Come of Age: The Case for Elderhood in Times of Trouble. In this conversation we speak about Stephen's Nights Of Grief and Mystery tour that is coming to our home, Salt Lake City, November 16th, and is touring through North America during the fall of 2019.

If your are close to one of the spots on the tour, we encourage you to attend this extraordinary event. Stephen speaks of how he and Gregory Hoskins were being faithful to what had not yet appeared in terms of a gathering, likening Nights of Grief and Mystery more to a ritual or ceremony, where everyone attending is a participant as opposed to having an audience and performance. Stephen speaks about what it is to be a deeply claimed person, and how to be faithful to what you are born into. Stephen unpacks the words "grief" and "mystery" and their importance in these times. We deeply enjoyed speaking with Stephen, and truly value the wisdom, and the challenging questions he offers.

We hope you enjoy the conversation. If you would like to hear more, we had a previous interview with Stephen on our podcast last year entitled "A Case for Elderhood."

For more about Stephen's work, his school and the tour, visit http://www.orphanwisdom.com