When former first lady Michelle Obama was on a book tour for Becoming, she famously swore in a candid, off the cuff moment. She caught herself off guard, but the crowd went wild as she shared a sentiment so many of us feel so deeply.

Now I won’t deliver this as coolly as Obama, but this is what she said (and be warned, I do swear in the episode):

“I tell women, that whole ‘you can have it all’ — nope, not at the same time; that’s a lie, and it’s not always enough to lean in because that s--- doesn’t work.”

It’s a sentiment that Chief Commercial Officer Danika Johnston agrees with.

With over 25 years’ experience in the media industry, working for the likes of Channel 10, Nova Entertainment, Mamamia, SBS, Tik Tok and now WeAre8, the mother of three has had her fair share of experiences when it comes to navigating having it all. She’s also in her mid-forties, and her parenting journey began 12 years ago when mothers mostly felt like they couldn’t even talk about the challenges of making work, work.

Here, we talk the regret of going back to work earlier than she would’ve liked in the days of zero flexibility, why nobody has it all and why you have to make all parts of your life work together, not with friction.

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