The troubled childhood, the meteoric rise to fame, the tragic fall… We all know the basic outline of a music biopic, so how hard can it be to write one? Find out (along with our guests!) in this episode of NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

Guests: Writer/director Dana Ledoux Miller ("Moana 2"); actor Jason Ritter ("Matlock"); and writer Joshua Zetumer ("Say Nothing").

NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING is a production of The Black List and LAist Studios, in partnership with The Ankler. This episode is presented by FX.

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