In the first episode of “Not Otherwise Specified,” host Lisa Rosenbaum talks with Shekinah Elmore about her hard-won insights into patients’ experiences of both illness and health care, the role of narrative in life and medicine, and how to achieve true shared decision making.

A full transcript of this episode is available at nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2301931.

In "Not Otherwise Specified," Dr. Lisa Rosenbaum, cardiologist and national correspondent for the New England Journal of Medicine, defies our sound-bite culture to go deep with some of medicine’s most innovative thinkers. Her guests’ stories and ideas about health care’s toughest challenges and greatest promise may change the way you think about medicine, health, and society.