Our writing lives don't always look the same. Depending on which phase you're in, drafting, editing, submitting, publishing or promoting - our rhythms and routines change according to what phase we are in. Ali and Penny are currently in different phases to each other and to where they each were a year ago. Today's episode is about where they are at and how that changes how they sit down and get the work done. They are both now juggling multiple projects at different stages and how that has necessarily changed their writing routines, in ways that are both good and a challenge.

Caribbean-American writer Charmaine Wilkerson's incredible fiction debut, Black Cake is a sweeping family tale about inheritance, memories and secrets. Charmaine discusses the layering of multiple timelines, much like the layering of a cake or the layering of conversation. She also talks about channeling the characters, allowing herself to follow them and see where they take her and having a quarter of the book written in various files before she was certain it was a story.

Black Cake is out in the UK on 3rd February 2022 and in the US on 1st February

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Black Cake - Charmaine Wilkerson

Another Life - Jodie Chapman

Beautiful Country - Qian Julie Wang

Olga Dies Dreaming - Xochitl Gonzalez

The Final Revival of Opal and Neve - Dawnie Walton

Who They Was - Gabriel Krauze

Cathy Rentzenbrink is a Sunday Times best selling author of The Last Act of Love, A Manual for Heartache, Dear Reader and Everyone is Still Alive. Her latest book, Write It All Down, is all about writing from life.

Cathy talks about how her first memoir started because she need to write it out of her, how she's learned to trust the process of writing, even though she's still filled with self doubt and learning that external validation of our writing doesn't magically fix that doubt.

A wonderful episode filled with advice from the most generous of writers.

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Write It All Down - Cathy Rentzenbrink

The Last Act of Love - Cathy Rentzenbrink

Everyone Is Still Alive - Cathy Rentzenbrink

The Virgin Suicides - Jeffery Eugenides

Without Warning And Only Sometimes - Kit De Waal

You can follow Cathy on Instagram @catrentzenbrink and twitter @catrentzenbrink

You can follow Penny on Instagram @pennywincer and twitter @pennywincer

It's that time of the year and Ali and Penny have a chat about where they are at with their writing projects and if they are where they hoped they would be. They talk about some big successes and failures, places where the path diverged and where writing projects went off in a new direction. They talk about letting go of projects as well as taking on new projects you didn't imagine you would do. They also look ahead to some 2022 writing goals.

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Life Writing Group Coaching with Penny Wincer

Still Life - Sarah Winman

Ghost Stories - M R James

A bit of a tongue in cheek question this week... Where do ideas come from? Ali and Penny talk all about ideas, sniffing them out like a blood hound, scratching away at them to see if they are interesting and following our curiosity. For us both, it's all about interacting with the external world and creating a habit of looking for and developing ideas. We also talk about having fallow times and abundant times and how they are both important in a writers life. And of course, we talk an awful lot about reading......

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My Body - Emily Ratajkowski

Ali and Penny come together to discuss life writing this week. They have both used different approaches to life writing and they discuss why they made the choices they did and how they might do it differently in the future. It's also an episode in which Ali reveals she doesn't really like memoirs (even though she just wrote one) and Penny that she hopes her life is going to be boring enough in the future that she never feels compelled to write one (although she's very partial to the essay).

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Swimming In Hampstead ladies pond - Daunt Books

Upon This Rock - Essay by John Jeramiah Sullivan

Constellations - Sinead Gleeson

I am I am I am - Maggie O'Farrell

The English Heretic Collection: Ritual Histories, Magickal Geography - Andy Sharp

My Year of Rest and Relaxation - Ottessa Moshfegh

You can find all the books mentioned on the podcast at Bookshop.org

Julia Silk is a an agent with Charlie Campbell Literary Agents. Julia spent many years as an editor before becoming an agent who represents a wide range of fiction and non-fiction authors. We talk about what exactly an agent does, how agents find and nurture authors as well as how agents deal with rejection (yes they get rejected too!). She also talks about the common problems that she sees in manuscripts, including really figuring out what the point of your book is and the importance story and how to write a captivating cover letter. It is a packed epsiode full of gold for submitting writers.

Julia Silk is currently open for submissions

You can find Julia on twitter @juliasreading

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Sisters - Daisy Johnson

Nine Perfect Strangers - Liane Moriaty

If This Is a Man - Primo Levi

Eat Up - Ruby Tandoh

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Huma Qureshi is a former Guardian and Observer journalist and is the author of the memoir How We Met and her latest book Things We Do Not Tell The People We Love, is a short story collection about the distance between people - between mothers and daughters and between lovers. It includes the "The Jam Maker" which won the Harper's Bazaar Short Story Prize 2020. We talk about what drove Huma to set herself the challenge of writing 10 short stories in a fairly short period of time, the importance of short story prizes as a way of setting yourself deadlines and challenges, and how motherhood both affected her confidence as a writer but also gave her an urgency to get the words on to the page.

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Things We Do Not Tell The People We Love - Huma Qureshi

How We Met - Huma Qureshi

Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen

A Ghost in the Throat - Doireann Ni Ghriofa

You can find Huma Qureshi on instagram @humaqureshiwriter

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Claire Lynch is an author and academic whose first book Small: On Motherhoods is a memoir about her experience of becoming a parent and the tiny things that are really the biggest things in life. We talk about finding a structure that reflect what the book is about, perspectives in both life and the page and the joy of capturing those early childhood in writing. Claire also discusses the winding publishing process and the previous iterations that the memoir had before it took on this final form.

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Small: On Motherhoods - Claire Lynch

Beautiful World, Where Are You? - Sally Rooney

Lost Cat - Mary Gaitskill

Monument Maker - David Keenan

You can follow Claire Lynch on twitter @DrClaireLynch

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Evie Wyld is an award winning author of three novels, the latest of which, The Bass Rock, won the Stella Prize 2021. We discuss writing a novel about male violence against a backdrop of #MeToo, and speaking about the subjects in the book in a year of highly publicised violence against women. We also talk about how motherhood, and the nature of writing with young children, led to some of the structural elements of The Bass Rock and how an award like the Stella Prize can create change in a writing career.

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The Bass Rock - Evie Wyld

Review Book Shop Peckham

Devotion - Hannah Kent

The Interestings - Meg Wolitzer

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